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vettes · 02-03-2003, 10:56 AM

I purchased a t max manager.All cabels ran room to room.I need rj-22 connectors. where to get and how to connect?thanks

Andy · 02-03-2003, 11:04 AM

I believe it is HIGHLY recommended by Applied Digital that you use factory made cables with the appropriate connectors.

I am aware of operators that have made there own ... some with no problem other with continuing communications problems and failures.

Equally important to the correct connectors is the appropriate device to connect them to the cables properly.

I would suggest you contact the vendor of the TMax Manager for the appropriate source for connectors and the appropriate "gun" for connecting them ... I believe that most authorized distributors of TMax products also carry and sell the appropriate cables etc.

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brianbic · 02-04-2005, 05:33 AM

Uhmm .. our solution GOTO radio shack and buy a 25' handset cord and cut it in half and crimp on the RJ-11 connector on the cut end ..

We used the in the wall keystone jacks for ours. Just make sure that you wire them straight across IE: hold both connectors up next to each other (the same way) and make sure the colors are the same, then crimp the new one.

make sure you wire every keystone jack the same or it WON'T work! DON'T try to use any pre-made cables except from the manufaturer (ADI). All radio shack, wal-mart, and ..etc.. cables all are reversed pairs .. look around at any of your 4-wire phone cords in you home/office .. EVEN HANDSET CORDS!

The disadvantage is that instead of a flat cord .. the handset cords are curly .. but with the new ballast boxes under the beds .. it works out better. (wheel them out without disconnecting them or fighting them while pushing them back in)

L8R

videogirl25 · 02-22-2005, 11:05 PM

PC Marketing sells the wire and a kit (crimps and the connectors). I have not priced the latter but the wire is $15 for a 50' cord.

Neon Beach · 02-24-2005, 10:40 AM

Phone cord, connectors and crimpers are available from places like Radio Shack. Just remember that when you are making your own, reverve the colours in the connectors to be the opposite of a phone cord is.

SwedaGuy · 02-25-2005, 06:32 PM

I thought you were supposed to use CAT5 for these? Of course, the cables that came with them certainly didn't LOOK like CAT5...

Neon Beach · 02-25-2005, 06:59 PM

It's phone line, with the same connectors, but they have reversed the colours. ie: rather than say, red, green, yellow, black, they should be made black, yellow, green, red. Or whatever the order actually is, reversed.

What's CAT5? ~curious~

sparkie · 02-25-2005, 07:43 PM

The connectors used are RJ-22, commonly known as handset connectors, which are smaller than the RJ-11 phone wall jack connectors.

As stated earlier, the wiring config IS DIFFERENT than a standard phone hanset cable also. Phone setups use a 'crossover' wiring, whereas T-MAX uses a direct color to color system.

I've tried buying these RJ-22's lately myself at Radio Shack and Home Depot, but neither store carries them anymore.

You would have better luck at an electronics supply store, or go on-line, or just get them directly from ADI, the T-MAX mfr.

Also, MAKE SURE any crimpers you use have the 'die' for RJ-22, NOT the standard RJ-11. It won't completely crimp the wires correctly, and you'll look forward to a lifetime of frustration and aggravation t-shooting this system

Neon Beach · 02-25-2005, 07:46 PM

I've made my own cables with no problems encountered. Taint rocket science.

SwedaGuy · 02-27-2005, 12:02 AM

Neon,
CAT5 is short for "Category 5", which is a specification for cable type. Standard ethernet networks use category 5 cable, which is to say that networks require a better grade of cable (a higher category level) than say, a standard telephone, which typically uses CAT3. Of course older phone wiring may use a variety of copper media, as it wasn't until LANs became popular that cable had to be graded so stringently...I'd say this system came about within the last twenty years...

Category 5, Category 3, et al, are commonly referred to as "twisted pair" because (yep, you guessed it) the individual pairs are twisted together...conventionally, a blue/white pair, a green/white pair a brown/white pair and an orange/white pair in a standard 4-pair cable.

The basic difference between CAT3 and CAT5 is that CAT5 has more twists per foot than CAT3. That's to control attenuation and balance the line...

Got all that?

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02-03-2003, 10:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
vettes Join Date: Oct 15 2002 Location: Northeast Age: 51 Posts: 370 Rep Power: 22	I purchased a t max manager.All cabels ran room to room.I need rj-22 connectors. where to get and how to connect?thanks

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Andy Join Date: Jan 25 2000 Location: CT Posts: 1,768 Rep Power: 25	I believe it is HIGHLY recommended by Applied Digital that you use factory made cables with the appropriate connectors. I am aware of operators that have made there own ... some with no problem other with continuing communications problems and failures. Equally important to the correct connectors is the appropriate device to connect them to the cables properly. I would suggest you contact the vendor of the TMax Manager for the appropriate source for connectors and the appropriate "gun" for connecting them ... I believe that most authorized distributors of TMax products also carry and sell the appropriate cables etc. _________________ Andy Thompson ACT Business Solutions Toll-Free 877-777-6717 andy@atso.ca ACT Help Center [ This Message was edited by: Andy @ ATSO.ca on 2003-02-03 11:05 ]

02-22-2005, 11:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
videogirl25 Join Date: Feb 1 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 87 Rep Power: 0	PC Marketing sells the wire and a kit (crimps and the connectors). I have not priced the latter but the wire is $15 for a 50' cord.

02-24-2005, 10:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	Phone cord, connectors and crimpers are available from places like Radio Shack. Just remember that when you are making your own, reverve the colours in the connectors to be the opposite of a phone cord is.

02-25-2005, 06:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
SwedaGuy Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Sep 3 2004 Posts: 533 Rep Power: 0	I thought you were supposed to use CAT5 for these? Of course, the cables that came with them certainly didn't LOOK like CAT5...

02-25-2005, 06:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	It's phone line, with the same connectors, but they have reversed the colours. ie: rather than say, red, green, yellow, black, they should be made black, yellow, green, red. Or whatever the order actually is, reversed. What's CAT5? ~curious~

02-25-2005, 07:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
sparkie Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Feb 2 2005 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	The connectors used are RJ-22, commonly known as handset connectors, which are smaller than the RJ-11 phone wall jack connectors. As stated earlier, the wiring config IS DIFFERENT than a standard phone hanset cable also. Phone setups use a 'crossover' wiring, whereas T-MAX uses a direct color to color system. I've tried buying these RJ-22's lately myself at Radio Shack and Home Depot, but neither store carries them anymore. You would have better luck at an electronics supply store, or go on-line, or just get them directly from ADI, the T-MAX mfr. Also, MAKE SURE any crimpers you use have the 'die' for RJ-22, NOT the standard RJ-11. It won't completely crimp the wires correctly, and you'll look forward to a lifetime of frustration and aggravation t-shooting this system

02-25-2005, 07:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	I've made my own cables with no problems encountered. Taint rocket science.

02-27-2005, 12:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
SwedaGuy Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Sep 3 2004 Posts: 533 Rep Power: 0	Neon, CAT5 is short for "Category 5", which is a specification for cable type. Standard ethernet networks use category 5 cable, which is to say that networks require a better grade of cable (a higher category level) than say, a standard telephone, which typically uses CAT3. Of course older phone wiring may use a variety of copper media, as it wasn't until LANs became popular that cable had to be graded so stringently...I'd say this system came about within the last twenty years... Category 5, Category 3, et al, are commonly referred to as "twisted pair" because (yep, you guessed it) the individual pairs are twisted together...conventionally, a blue/white pair, a green/white pair a brown/white pair and an orange/white pair in a standard 4-pair cable. The basic difference between CAT3 and CAT5 is that CAT5 has more twists per foot than CAT3. That's to control attenuation and balance the line... Got all that?

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