winter hours, where to cut and save? - tanTALK

Hot Tan · 03-01-2016, 08:35 PM

who does it?

i know the PO did it, i didn't but it makes sense

DH · 03-02-2016, 07:52 AM

IMO cutting to make a profit is the beginning of the end unless you're not operating an efficient business. Once you're reached maximum efficiency you need to focus on increasing revenue and not cutting to increase you profits.

We gain new clients from our comp every year because they reduce their hours at the beginning of JASON. This angers clients and when their not happy with you it can be the one thing that pushes them to leave to your comp.

Here are a few things to consider if you insist on cutting:

1. Shorten your hours to save on labor.
2. Stop providing toilet paper in your restroom or don't provide a public restroom at all to save on all that water too.
3. Do not turn on your heat until the inside temperatures reach 60 degrees.
4. Work all available hours yourself and get rid of all your staff (if you have any).
5. Use a bucket for your bed cleaning towels and reuse them indefinitely. You never have to wash them.
6. Don't provide your clients with their own towels to use saving you money washing them.
7. We replaced 95% of our lighting with LED to save $100's a year on electricity.
8. You could have your clients clean their own beds to make your life easier too.

Or you could just focus on bring in more clients with money.

Wynwood · 03-02-2016, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH

IMO cutting to make a profit is the beginning of the end unless you're not operating an efficient business. Once you're reached maximum efficiency you need to focus on increasing revenue and not cutting to increase you profits.

We gain new clients from our comp every year because they reduce their hours at the beginning of JASON. This angers clients and when their not happy with you it can be the one thing that pushes them to leave to your comp.

Here are a few things to consider if you insist on cutting:

1. Shorten your hours to save on labor.
2. Stop providing toilet paper in your restroom or don't provide a public restroom at all to save on all that water too.
3. Do not turn on your heat until the inside temperatures reach 60 degrees.
4. Work all available hours yourself and get rid of all your staff (if you have any).
5. Use a bucket for your bed cleaning towels and reuse them indefinitely. You never have to wash them.
6. Don't provide your clients with their own towels to use saving you money washing them.
7. We replaced 95% of our lighting with LED to save $100's a year on electricity.
8. You could have your clients clean their own beds to make your life easier too.

Or you could just focus on bring in more clients with money.

Anyone who would even consider doing any of these except for #1 AND #7 is already done.

DH · 03-02-2016, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wynwood

Anyone who would even consider doing any of these except for #1 AND #7 is already done.

I would argue that if you do #1 to save on labor you're doing it for the wrong reason. Your hours should be based on being available for clients in your market to make more money not for your convenience.

IMO the ONLY thing in the list worth doing is #7 and is the only legitimate cost reduction. We removed 200 lights drawing 75watts each of electricity and replaced with LED that used around 2 watts each. These lights are on approximately 12 hours a day 350 days a year.

Hot Tan · 03-03-2016, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DH

I would argue that if you do #1 to save on labor you're doing it for the wrong reason. Your hours should be based on being available for clients in your market to make more money not for your convenience.

IMO the ONLY thing in the list worth doing is #7 and is the only legitimate cost reduction. We removed 200 lights drawing 75watts each of electricity and replaced with LED that used around 2 watts each. These lights are on approximately 12 hours a day 350 days a year.

LED's are in from the get go when i acquired the salon...
the previous owner, had 6 salons and as routine closed Sundays during NOV,DEC and JAN

I did not do it for 2 cycles to measure it against his and my performance.

yes, labor is a consideration, since Los angeles/ CA has implemented a 15.00 minimum wage to be phased in.

he was paying <8.00, i bought it and it went to 9.00

now it is at 10.00. and i inherited and challenged salon, tracking the sales there is no growth.

Hot Tan · 03-03-2016, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH

IMO cutting to make a profit is the beginning of the end unless you're not operating an efficient business. Once you're reached maximum efficiency you need to focus on increasing revenue and not cutting to increase you profits.

We gain new clients from our comp every year because they reduce their hours at the beginning of JASON. This angers clients and when their not happy with you it can be the one thing that pushes them to leave to your comp.

Here are a few things to consider if you insist on cutting:

1. Shorten your hours to save on labor.
2. Stop providing toilet paper in your restroom or don't provide a public restroom at all to save on all that water too.
3. Do not turn on your heat until the inside temperatures reach 60 degrees.
4. Work all available hours yourself and get rid of all your staff (if you have any).
5. Use a bucket for your bed cleaning towels and reuse them indefinitely. You never have to wash them.
6. Don't provide your clients with their own towels to use saving you money washing them.
7. We replaced 95% of our lighting with LED to save $100's a year on electricity.
8. You could have your clients clean their own beds to make your life easier too.

Or you could just focus on bring in more clients with money.

i was told that if "NOTIFIED" the customers will adjust their schedule to tan when they closed sundays

LOL.... trump for president...carpet bomb everything!!!

some on that list is sarcasm right?

seriously, what is your secret? can you list a good list? what you do that is effective bang for the buck to bring in customers???

geminitanning · 03-08-2016, 05:34 PM

We change our hours seasonally. The previous owner did, and I continued. We say we "extend" our hours during the busy season. Extended hours March-July, regular hours August-February. We're open 7 days a week.

Steve Underhill · 03-09-2016, 10:46 AM

Many things in business will generate indirect sales. Hours of operation is one of those things. I would find ways to increase traffic during early and late hours rather than cutting them. When you are not doing everything that will maximize income potential the decision to lower operating cost by reducing customer service and value of your product is not a good idea. How can I do less for my clients is not a formula for success. Concentrate on things you can do to create a better product and increase sales. If you are cutting hours your salon is struggling and should be looking for positive changes.

Hot Tan · 03-09-2016, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by geminitanning

We change our hours seasonally. The previous owner did, and I continued. We say we "extend" our hours during the busy season. Extended hours March-July, regular hours August-February. We're open 7 days a week.

where are you and what are the hours?

and

how long have you had it?

Hot Tan · 03-09-2016, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Underhill

Many things in business will generate indirect sales. Hours of operation is one of those things. I would find ways to increase traffic during early and late hours rather than cutting them. When you are not doing everything that will maximize income potential the decision to lower operating cost by reducing customer service and value of your product is not a good idea. How can I do less for my clients is not a formula for success. Concentrate on things you can do to create a better product and increase sales. If you are cutting hours your salon is struggling and should be looking for positive changes.

i started an early bird program , people like it

03-01-2016, 08:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hot Tan Join Date: Sep 16 2014 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Posts: 261 Rep Power: 10	winter hours, where to cut and save? who does it? i know the PO did it, i didn't but it makes sense

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DH Join Date: Dec 13 2001 Location: MD Posts: 298 Rep Power: 23	Re: winter hours, where to cut and save? IMO cutting to make a profit is the beginning of the end unless you're not operating an efficient business. Once you're reached maximum efficiency you need to focus on increasing revenue and not cutting to increase you profits. We gain new clients from our comp every year because they reduce their hours at the beginning of JASON. This angers clients and when their not happy with you it can be the one thing that pushes them to leave to your comp. Here are a few things to consider if you insist on cutting: 1. Shorten your hours to save on labor. 2. Stop providing toilet paper in your restroom or don't provide a public restroom at all to save on all that water too. 3. Do not turn on your heat until the inside temperatures reach 60 degrees. 4. Work all available hours yourself and get rid of all your staff (if you have any). 5. Use a bucket for your bed cleaning towels and reuse them indefinitely. You never have to wash them. 6. Don't provide your clients with their own towels to use saving you money washing them. 7. We replaced 95% of our lighting with LED to save $100's a year on electricity. 8. You could have your clients clean their own beds to make your life easier too. Or you could just focus on bring in more clients with money.

03-08-2016, 05:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
geminitanning Join Date: Nov 3 2008 Location: East Coast Posts: 357 Rep Power: 16	Re: winter hours, where to cut and save? We change our hours seasonally. The previous owner did, and I continued. We say we "extend" our hours during the busy season. Extended hours March-July, regular hours August-February. We're open 7 days a week.

03-09-2016, 10:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
Steve Underhill Join Date: Apr 21 2004 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 1,502 Rep Power: 21	Re: winter hours, where to cut and save? Many things in business will generate indirect sales. Hours of operation is one of those things. I would find ways to increase traffic during early and late hours rather than cutting them. When you are not doing everything that will maximize income potential the decision to lower operating cost by reducing customer service and value of your product is not a good idea. How can I do less for my clients is not a formula for success. Concentrate on things you can do to create a better product and increase sales. If you are cutting hours your salon is struggling and should be looking for positive changes. __________________ Stephen Underhill Consultant steve@smuconsulting.com

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