what is you take on customers bringing in lotion they bought online? - Page 3 - tanTALK

peach2 · 02-27-2015, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Tan

I agree with the worthless lotion comment LOL,
now I would not, if the tan lotion industry would tone it down a little,they are all trying to out do the other... any disagreements here?

jwoww, snooki, pauli who? hardy? and lets not forget the kardashians, everyone is junpin into the fray., don't get me wrong we need these spokespeople to exert peer pressure, for our low and high pressure

and some going out of business soon

with the BS hype( I smell a Rat)

no other cosmetic type manufacturer, cover-up,

it's nonsense by continually coming up with "new technology" to both confuse the seller( me, the girls) and the consumer. sure some of it is viable.

there is no true or effective manner to separate the chaff from the wheat, Oh I know MARKETING meaning shoveling excrement.

Why don't a disinterested third party "review" said products and rate them...no because, in their respective categories i.e. bronzers , tinglers, warmers, cooler, delayed, instant, melanin enhancers, they are all the same.... the big X factor perhaps is skin type.

and even If i graduate and receive my BS degree on lotions, it's actually a PHD ( piled High and deep) it will still not amount to a hill of beans,

because, most of it is either superfluous, redundant and unnecessary.

These lotion manufacturers use salons to market their lotions to the public; me and you turn their lotion into a national hit by retailing it, then they sell the mass quantities to the internet merchants who gobble them up and sell them at 50% off of 50%. You sell 10 bottles and make $500, they sell 5000 and make 20k. Real fair. They ought to pay US to sell their lotion in our stores.

Hot Tan · 02-27-2015, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by peach2

These lotion manufacturers use salons to market their lotions to the public; me and you turn their lotion into a national hit by retailing it, then they sell the mass quantities to the internet merchants who gobble them up and sell them at 50% off of 50%. You sell 10 bottles and make $500, they sell 5000 and make 20k. Real fair. They ought to pay US to sell their lotion in our stores.

interesting perspective, sounds as cynical as I always will be.

you read the label on some of this stuff, and they could use it for outdoor tanning, but... do they?

they use it in our salons.

there are great companies out there that develop a protective mechanisms for the retailer, your saying this is not the case... it's a free for all.

So..that is why I say it's all fluff, If Designer Skin or whoever claims they are the best and has ingredients like no others, they can maintain a higher price point without leaking it to the internet..

but..
they can't since it's no better than the other slop out there.

the MSRP is more than 2 times keystone....

this gives us room to mark them down when we need to have a smoke and mirror promotion.

Just trying to figure it out, can't summarily, mark them down 50%, that would be fiscal suicide.

If the customer lays down and pays for pop, I ain't gonna complain.

I'll take the big with the small

peach2 · 02-28-2015, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hot Tan

interesting perspective, sounds as cynical as I always will be.

you read the label on some of this stuff, and they could use it for outdoor tanning, but... do they?

they use it in our salons.

there are great companies out there that develop a protective mechanisms for the retailer, your saying this is not the case... it's a free for all.

So..that is why I say it's all fluff, If Designer Skin or whoever claims they are the best and has ingredients like no others, they can maintain a higher price point without leaking it to the internet..

but..
they can't since it's no better than the other slop out there.

the MSRP is more than 2 times keystone....

this gives us room to mark them down when we need to have a smoke and mirror promotion.

Just trying to figure it out, can't summarily, mark them down 50%, that would be fiscal suicide.

If the customer lays down and pays for pop, I ain't gonna complain.

I'll take the big with the small

Do you think that the internet merchants pay the same thing for a bottle of luminary that you and I do? We buy 10 bottles at the most at 1 time; they buy 1000. Who do you think gets the best discount? plus, internet merchants don't have to take chances on which lotion will be a hit this year and which ones are on their way out. They aren't stuck with unsold "dog" lotions. They wait until the manufacturers get their initial orders in from the retail salons, then buy the hot movers in big quantities.

peach2 · 02-28-2015, 08:00 AM

There is a reason why Mary Kay and Avon do not sell to mass merchants; it is to protect their independent distribution chains. Those independent individuals are the ones who are out there promoting THEIR products every day...their whole line! If they offered their products to Wal Mart or Deal Duh.com or ebay, do you think that they would support and carry their whole line? No! They would only carry their "hot sellers". That is why the lotion manufacturers, and distributors are losing their Asses and businesses.

They do not understand marketing 101; rule 1: choose your distribution method and stick to it. Rule 2: don't mix them or try to use multiple distribution methods. It doesn't work. The lotion industry is trying to use distributors and mass marketers; it isn't working. They are growing their mass marketers while killing their distributors business. Soon there will be no one willing to stock and market their overpriced merchandise. And mass marketer will lose interest in the lotion commodity.

You know what will happen then? The mass marketers will move on to diet pills, or copper socks or the other next "mass marketing fad" of the day....

Brunsco01 · 09-30-2015, 07:18 PM

I think with the online shopping and now with Wal-mart and drug stores selling indoor tanning lotions, it makes it very difficult to stay in business. Lets face it, the bread and butter of a tanning salon is the lotion.

HOT STUFF · 09-30-2015, 11:20 PM

Then sell the lotions they can't get. Sell MRI or Bodicare. They both do no allow someone to sell on the internet and their lotions are just as good as the big boys. Problem solved.
Now you are going to tell me that your customers do no not know who they are. Guess what, no one had heard of Designer Skin when I brought them in at my salon.

None of these lotions advertise to the outside in any way. You are their advertisement, your shelves are their advertisement. So advertise what makes you money, not them.

Give them the finger, not your money.

Brunsco01 · 10-01-2015, 10:18 AM

I am a huge fan of Devoted Creations. I use to think it was even worth every $. However, I have no choice. I am no longer going to sell products that customers can buy online.

How do you handle the lotions your customers bring in from Wal-mart or drug stores?

HOT STUFF · 10-03-2015, 12:41 AM

Who do you think makes MRI? ^^^^^^ See your own post. If it is not sold in a salon, we do not allow it. We have some lower end stuff that they can trade in their other lotion and pay $10 for our lotion. But that means they give us their lotion. They do not get to keep it.

02-28-2015, 08:00 AM	#24 (permalink)
peach2 Join Date: Jan 5 2015 Location: southeast Posts: 165 Rep Power: 10	Re: what is you take on customers bringing in lotion they bought online? There is a reason why Mary Kay and Avon do not sell to mass merchants; it is to protect their independent distribution chains. Those independent individuals are the ones who are out there promoting THEIR products every day...their whole line! If they offered their products to Wal Mart or Deal Duh.com or ebay, do you think that they would support and carry their whole line? No! They would only carry their "hot sellers". That is why the lotion manufacturers, and distributors are losing their Asses and businesses. They do not understand marketing 101; rule 1: choose your distribution method and stick to it. Rule 2: don't mix them or try to use multiple distribution methods. It doesn't work. The lotion industry is trying to use distributors and mass marketers; it isn't working. They are growing their mass marketers while killing their distributors business. Soon there will be no one willing to stock and market their overpriced merchandise. And mass marketer will lose interest in the lotion commodity. You know what will happen then? The mass marketers will move on to diet pills, or copper socks or the other next "mass marketing fad" of the day....

09-30-2015, 07:18 PM	#25 (permalink)
Brunsco01 Join Date: May 7 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Re: what is you take on customers bringing in lotion they bought online? I think with the online shopping and now with Wal-mart and drug stores selling indoor tanning lotions, it makes it very difficult to stay in business. Lets face it, the bread and butter of a tanning salon is the lotion.

09-30-2015, 11:20 PM	#26 (permalink)
HOT STUFF Join Date: Jan 5 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 759 Rep Power: 21	Re: what is you take on customers bringing in lotion they bought online? Then sell the lotions they can't get. Sell MRI or Bodicare. They both do no allow someone to sell on the internet and their lotions are just as good as the big boys. Problem solved. Now you are going to tell me that your customers do no not know who they are. Guess what, no one had heard of Designer Skin when I brought them in at my salon. None of these lotions advertise to the outside in any way. You are their advertisement, your shelves are their advertisement. So advertise what makes you money, not them. Give them the finger, not your money. __________________ ______________________

10-01-2015, 10:18 AM	#27 (permalink)
Brunsco01 Join Date: May 7 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Re: what is you take on customers bringing in lotion they bought online? I am a huge fan of Devoted Creations. I use to think it was even worth every $. However, I have no choice. I am no longer going to sell products that customers can buy online. How do you handle the lotions your customers bring in from Wal-mart or drug stores?

10-03-2015, 12:41 AM	#28 (permalink)
HOT STUFF Join Date: Jan 5 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 759 Rep Power: 21	Re: what is you take on customers bringing in lotion they bought online? Who do you think makes MRI? ^^^^^^ See your own post. If it is not sold in a salon, we do not allow it. We have some lower end stuff that they can trade in their other lotion and pay $10 for our lotion. But that means they give us their lotion. They do not get to keep it. __________________ ______________________

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