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Old 01-18-2015, 07:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Yes, they are SO smart, they pay for tanning, and don't tan at all! Or so you hope. And we wonder why indoor tanning has achieved such a bad reputation.
Not at all how eft works these days. This is 2015, smart salon owners keep their customers engaged.
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Old 01-19-2015, 04:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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While I commend peach on finding a way to survive, my question is why would anyone want to open or operate a business to simply survive. You can work for someone without the work that goes along with owning a business and survive.
I think it might be possible that you may not understand todays consumer when you say an easy method of paying for a service that saves you money is a rip off.

If a salon owners desire is to survive instead of maximize income potential or getting the most out of a business, taking advice from a survivor is a direction you can take.

Things are always changing and improving in terms of business operations. Avoiding those changes because you do not understand them is indeed a problem in this industry as well as all industries.

You must be open to new ideas or even older ideas that are proven successful. It will not be long before those operators with the survive mentality have all gone away. What is left are those that make every effort to improve every day no matter how much effort and educating yourself it might take.

Peach there is nothing wrong with you settling for what you have if that makes you happy.
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Old 01-20-2015, 07:36 AM   #13 (permalink)
 
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As you know, I do not do EFT's. They are rip offs and smart customers hate them.
Agee...I personally WOULD NEVER turn access to my accounts to a stranger, and could not expect a customer to do so.

treat with respect, you get respect...part of the winning strategy
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Old 01-20-2015, 02:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Agee...I personally WOULD NEVER turn access to my accounts to a stranger, and could not expect a customer to do so.

treat with respect, you get respect...part of the winning strategy

Then EFT might not be the right choice for you.

That said - many, many people now regularly use on-line payments, recurring payments, etc etc - in many places. Gas bills, gym, wine-club-of-the-month, and so on. Many customers appreciate this and consider it a convenience. And many also like the cost savings they can achieve by "committing" to a business in this fashion - even when cancellation policies can be very liberal and non-restraining.

When we run a business, we have the option of setting it up however we want, and only offering things WE 'prefer'. This will likely attract customers who prefer the same things. If our preferences are limited compared to others in the marketplace - this may limit our customers as well. But any business has the opportunity to make that choice - even if it leads to less revenues or fewer customers. That is the benefit of owning your own business - you get to make the decisions!
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While I commend peach on finding a way to survive, my question is why would anyone want to open or operate a business to simply survive. You can work for someone without the work that goes along with owning a business and survive.
I think it might be possible that you may not understand todays consumer when you say an easy method of paying for a service that saves you money is a rip off.

If a salon owners desire is to survive instead of maximize income potential or getting the most out of a business, taking advice from a survivor is a direction you can take.

Things are always changing and improving in terms of business operations. Avoiding those changes because you do not understand them is indeed a problem in this industry as well as all industries.

You must be open to new ideas or even older ideas that are proven successful. It will not be long before those operators with the survive mentality have all gone away. What is left are those that make every effort to improve every day no matter how much effort and educating yourself it might take.

Peach there is nothing wrong with you settling for what you have if that makes you happy.
Thanks. You obviously took the word "survive" to mean, just barely getting by. Not true. I would not be in it if I were not profitable.

Kooky and Sunsally are right. The world is giving up all of it's information to just about anyone. It is convenient no doubt until it ends up in the wrong hands or you lose control of it.
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Agee...I personally WOULD NEVER turn access to my accounts to a stranger, and could not expect a customer to do so.

treat with respect, you get respect...part of the winning strategy
eft has always been an will always be....a gimmick! Not saying that it doesn't work. But is pure deception at its core. Tanners end up paying more for their sessions in a eft than paying per session, per week or per month. Otherwise, the chains wouldn't push it so much.

You, as a independent salon have to decide whether to be a leader or a follower in your marketplace. I proudly tell my customers that we do not want to get into their back pocket and do not require long term commitments.
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eft has always been an will always be....a gimmick! Not saying that it doesn't work. But is pure deception at its core. Tanners end up paying more for their sessions in a eft than paying per session, per week or per month. Otherwise, the chains wouldn't push it so much.

You, as a independent salon have to decide whether to be a leader or a follower in your marketplace. I proudly tell my customers that we do not want to get into their back pocket and do not require long term commitments.
It does not sound like you're a leader in this industry as you're a doom and gloom kinda guy. What ever you're doing anyone on this site would be an idiot to try because in your own words

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Most of the tanning salons in the US ARE dying.
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It does not sound like you're a leader in this industry as you're a doom and gloom kinda guy. What ever you're doing anyone on this site would be an idiot to try because in your own words
I have never asked anyone to try to do what I do. And most of the tanning salons in this country ARE dying. The pole I did on this site verifies that.

Since when does telling the truth make you a gloom and doomer? I wouldn't be going into my 23rd year in this industry if I was.

So, DH....wrong on all counts as usual. The question is not IS the industry in decline, but WHY? Could these "brilliant ideas" that the majority of the industry is following be contributing to this demise?

If the problem was crappy salon owners like me, the great salon owners you referred to would have wiped me out a long time ago, and the industry would be purged and purified....and well again. But It is not. So what's up? Something wrong with the strategy?
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I am doom and gloom, because I've seen my market (College age kids) drop 60-70 % in the last 5 years. I'm over 28 years in this business, and it is dying here. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT all salons are hurting, but most that depend on my demographics are. Pale is the new tan here.
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I am doom and gloom, because I've seen my market (College age kids) drop 60-70 % in the last 5 years. I'm over 28 years in this business, and it is dying here. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT all salons are hurting, but most that depend on my demographics are. Pale is the new tan here.
Just buy one of those 25k spray tan machines and your problems will be solved! Or go to one of those hidden fee, smoke and mirror eft programs, OR get on social media where everyone is these days. That will change everything for everybody and the tanning world will come into complete alignment. This is SO easy. I think I'll go into consulting.
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