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tanu01 08-03-2014 05:05 PM

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Yes........... down again, But the bad part was the fact that every tanner today was over 50 years old

peach 08-04-2014 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tanu01 (Post 15086917)
Yes........... down again, But the bad part was the fact that every tanner today was over 50 years old

Once upon a time , it was cool to tan. The media has done a great job of changing that.

parrot head 08-04-2014 08:31 AM

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Now, people don't want to seen parked in your parking lot. They frown at you, knowing you are a tanning salon owner. This is no joke.

Steve Underhill 08-04-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by parrot head (Post 15086927)
Now, people don't want to seen parked in your parking lot. They frown at you, knowing you are a tanning salon owner. This is no joke.

This is a ridicules thing to say. Tanning will never go away. If a salon has only 50 year old tanners, that is who they are marketing. Is everyone beefing up their spray tanning service? When media creates a UV hiccup, your spray tanning should spike if you are marketing your salon properly.

I have been in this industry for 35 years and this same conversation has been going on for at least 20 years. We are in a high profile controversial business. That will never change. salons that are properly structured and marketed are doing great, increasing sales and growing.

Yes salons are thinning out because there are so many salons that are not willing to do what is required to be successful.

Remember salon chains started as a single salon that had a business model that could be successfully duplicated over and over again.

Make your salon a successful business model that could be successfully duplicated over and over again and that single salon will be successful.

If your salon is struggling it is because of what you are or are not doing.

Today tanners will be tanning, it is time for back to school and a great marketing opportunity.

tanu01 08-04-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Underhill (Post 15086933)
This is a ridicules thing to say. Tanning will never go away. If a salon has only 50 year old tanners, that is who they are marketing. Is everyone beefing up their spray tanning service? When media creates a UV hiccup, your spray tanning should spike if you are marketing your salon properly.

I have been in this industry for 35 years and this same conversation has been going on for at least 20 years. We are in a high profile controversial business. That will never change. salons that are properly structured and marketed are doing great, increasing sales and growing.

Yes salons are thinning out because there are so many salons that are not willing to do what is required to be successful.

Remember salon chains started as a single salon that had a business model that could be successfully duplicated over and over again.

Make your salon a successful business model that could be successfully duplicated over and over again and that single salon will be successful.

If your salon is struggling it is because of what you are or are not doing.

Today tanners will be tanning, it is time for back to school and a great marketing opportunity.


IS THERE A DOCTOR ON THIS SITE ?

Steve is drowning in himselfe !

peach 08-04-2014 06:17 PM

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He clearly does not pay attention to anyone on this site. Parrot does business in a college town. And he's marketing to 50 yr olds? He has no local competition. So he is a perfect "canary" in the mine of the tanning industry.

Also, no one is going to make it in this industry strictly on UV free tanning. That might be 25% of one's business model at best. It is UV tanning that is in decline and Steve knows it. The misinformation is really disturbing.

The end game for indoor UV tanning will be that it will become so regulated that you will need to be a licensed healthcare professional to administer it. So Steve is right, tanning will never go away, however, soon the average person will not be able to operate a salon by themselves.

Of course the big names in the tanning industry won't mind that; they will hire a couple of derms, put them on the payroll in order to administer their company tanning programs. This will effectively eliminate what is left of their independent competition.

Turbo Girl 08-05-2014 02:14 AM

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Tanu01: I'm really sorry.

Dogfan: I fear you have the endgame pegged, it's just taking a while.

Parrot: I hear ya. Had an old high school friend hit me up on Facebook the other day, asked what I'm doing and when I told tanning salons-he actually asked me: "why would you hurt people"?

WTH?!?!?

peach 08-05-2014 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo Girl (Post 15086953)
Tanu01: I'm really sorry.

Dogfan: I fear you have the endgame pegged, it's just taking a while.

Parrot: I hear ya. Had an old high school friend hit me up on Facebook the other day, asked what I'm doing and when I told tanning salons-he actually asked me: "why would you hurt people"?

WTH?!?!?

The dermatology doesn't want to kill indoor tanning; they want to hijack it; control it and put our 2 billion dollar industry into their back pockets.

What is currently "unsafe" now, will automatically become "safe" once you are tanning under the care of a doctor.....

Turbogirl, it is actually happening frighteningly fast if you asked me. 4 years ago, there was: 1) no tan tax, no no 18 yr old tanners laws, and no skull and cross bones labels on tanning beds, 4) No activist Surgeon general, beating the drum.

I think that they have made a lot of progress if you asked me.

Black Sun 08-05-2014 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogfan (Post 15086965)
The dermatology doesn't want to kill indoor tanning; they want to hijack it; control it and put our 2 billion dollar industry into their back pockets.

What is currently "unsafe" now, will automatically become "safe" once you are tanning under the care of a doctor.....

Turbogirl, it is actually happening frighteningly fast if you asked me. 4 years ago, there was: 1) no tan tax, no no 18 yr old tanners laws, and no skull and cross bones labels on tanning beds, 4) No activist Surgeon general, beating the drum.

I think that they have made a lot of progress if you asked me.

Dog is RIGHT ON!

Tanning will always be here because the sun will always shine...as for tanning salons, I must say, for someone who has been in this industry as long as Steve, I have no doubt he sees it, he feels it. To deny it is not a fading biz (no pun), is foolish. And if anybody thinks it will be a continuance of the 80's and 90's is fooling themselves.

Two salons in the metro area just went up for sale...nobody will buy either one. Not because they are not good salons, but because it is a well known fact that the industry is dying.

If you want to open a 'tanning business', open a gym and offer it. That is the survival of the industry.

Turbo Girl 08-05-2014 03:35 PM

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At this rate, even the sun is in danger from this sunscare epidemic. Here's more from Don's post:

Dr. Boris Lushniak said state and local officials need to do more to help people cover up, such as providing more shade at parks and sporting events. Schools should encourage kids to wear hats and sunscreen and schedule outdoor activities when the sun is low in the sky. And colleges and universities should eliminate indoor tanning beds on campus much as they would prohibit tobacco use, he added.

“We need more states and institutions on board with these policies that discourage or restrict indoor tanning by our youth,” Lushniak said. “Tanned skin is damaged skin.”


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