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View Poll Results: Have low pressure beds really changed in the past 10 years
Minor changes, nothing significant 10 23.26%
Major technical advancements 6 13.95%
Mainly style and design change, technology is the same 24 55.81%
Doesnt matter, customers want new beds 8 18.60%
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Old 05-09-2009, 05:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Re: Have beds really changed in past 10 years?

olmantan, I don't know if you can make it to Vegas for a tanning show but if you can, it would be well worth your time to go to Ergoline's west coast show...here is a link to their website for more info http://www.sunergoline.com/

The show is alot of fun (hey it's Vegas!) and it will give you a chance to see some new equipment as well as meet and talk to 100's...1000s? of other salon owners.
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Old 05-10-2009, 10:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
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11 older beds in excellent condition.......My advisor said the beds were worth the 35k I paid for the entire business.

(2) Sundash 240's (4)level 1 beds, (3) level 2 beds (1) Sundazzler stand-up (1) Ergoline Turbo 600 (1) California spray system plus the computer systems to run the place.

Couple of thoughts:

*It depends what you are calling 'Level 1 beds' and "level 2 beds". I would call Sundash 240's "Level 2 beds", so if you have two levels below those, might be time to drop one out - and at the same time, fill the "gap" below the Turbo 600 and above it.


*That said - sure, you probably can do fine with this equipment, or some subset of it. Polish the beds inside and out, consider adding some "detailing" (from a sign shop) if they need to be prettied up -- can even put a bed up on a "platform" in a room to give it more presence.


If you want to go in as the low cost provider, you need to know what kind of pricing to offer to make that work. Also how to upsell so the 'low cost' is really bringing in more than they "think" they are paying.

If you have room for more than 11 units, then you can add in some other things that have more profit potential. With the equip you have, it appears to be too "low end". I'd want at least another VHR bed (Turbo 600) and HP.

No "one best way" to approach this industry. However, in the end, it is about client's perceptions that you offer a good "value" for their money -- whether that is $3/visit or $23/visit. Of course - the higher the number, the more you make!
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I already have tickets for Las Vegas and look forward to learning a lot more about the industry. To answer SunSally the level 1 and 2 beds probably do need to be upgraded. They represent about 80% of all tans at the location I bought. I have 7 Sundash 32 lamp beds, the 3 with facial were considered level 2 buy the previous owner. When I bought the business. We re-lamped some and had work done on a couple noisy parts. The bodies(?) are in great shape as the previous owner was a nut for upkeep. 3 different people in the industry have remarked what great shape all the bed are in and even told me all the previous lamps were fine, but i wanted to start fresh.
SunSally you seem to have a lot of experience across the industry. What is your view of the state of the industry and the trend over the past 5 years. What percent of owners just hanging on? How much fallout/closings will there be in the slow season this year?
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SunSally, I may be wrong about which of the beds I referred to as Sundash 240's. I bought a Cyberdome 52 lamp bed, I thought/think it's model number is 240. I also have a MiniCyber by Sundash. Are these level two or three? Maybe the base beds are the 240's. I will go by the salon and see if i can find some better identification.
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Re: Have beds really changed in past 10 years?

I bought 3 Sonnenbraune, and 3 Ets Speed sunstars all with less than 4k hrs for $8K.The Sportareddos, T/A and heartland Ovation and Bravo for 14K used.

Total investment on 11 units relamped was under 30K.

11 new units would have run me 100k+ for the same quality.

Even though companies like Sonnenbraune are no longer in business,there units are still one of the most reliable in the industry.

There are great deals out there on used equipment,The 2006 10 minute ovation I just purchased was in excellent condition with less than 500 hrs and it cost me 2.5K relamped.
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CAN ANYONE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!I AM LOOKING AT A BRAVO (2006 M,ODEL HEARTLAND) DOES ANYONE KNOW IS THIS A GOOD BED???????????????
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as for the pole,,, whats the difference in choices 1 and 3?
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All I can say is that you leave the door open for someone to come in and steal all your hard work when you don't offer the best equipment...
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