01-04-2005, 09:39 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 0 | I at this time have 20 minute Beach Sun Bulbs in my beds. I want to do a couple of the beds to 10 minutes with the cheetah bulbs. Do I charge more for the use of these beds when I do this. All of my beds are the same at this point. All this upgrading I hear about has never been a issue. |
01-05-2005, 04:09 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 25 | Same price, you just make more revenue in a day because the bed is "turned over" faster and you can get more tanners on it. Obviously you must be in a non-regulated state --- or this is not allowed. Make sure your staff is WELL trained and will NEVER make a mistake and set someone for 20 minutes rather than 10 in that room!!! May be able to re-program the beds so that is not a possibility, but if not, be VERY careful!!! |
01-05-2005, 05:15 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 24 | Make sure your staff is WELL trained and will NEVER make a mistake and set someone for 20 minutes rather than 10 in that room!!! May be able to re-program the beds so that is not a possibility, but if not, be VERY careful!!! Just to reiterate what sunsally said. Very important. I'd re-program the bed or if you have software make sure they can only be set for the 10 min. |
01-05-2005, 06:24 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 25 | Personally, I don't prefer 10 min tans - too reddening (esp Cheetahs). I find 15 mins to be ideal from all angles - give good results and turn the bed over relatively fast = which is good for salon revenue AND customers seem to prefer - both for tanning, and waiting. And agree with Neon - in most salons that offer a choice, 10 mins is NOT the preference. If I understand your post Foxy, you have all the "same" beds now, so no upgrades? Were you considering lamp changes to try to create "upgrades" or just to build capacity? To upgrade, need to bring in another style of bed with more/higher wattage lamps. Something that will give a significant improvement in the "result" from your current bed selection. Switching to faster lamps won't do that. And again, BE CAREFUL! Argh - I wince at the liability from one min wage salon employee (or you yourself!) who gets distracted and "accidentally" sets them in a Cheetah lamped bed for 20 minutes! If it is on a t-max timer, call and get a 10 min chip to replace the 20 min one. Otherwise, reprogram the bed or software. Just don't leave it to chance! |
01-05-2005, 03:55 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 21 | Quote: On 2005-01-05 05:45:00, Neon Beach wrote: I went the other way, my 10 minute bed was only getting half the use of the 20's. So it bevcame a 20. Yep, me too. A ten minute bed is hard to sell when many salons around here are still offering 30. Many seem to like longer tan periods around here. |
01-05-2005, 08:13 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 107 | 30 minutes? Wow. You have to stop looking at how many you tanners can shove thru in an hour and look at what the client wants. Here, 10 minutes wqas not enough, they wanted to relax for longer, despite the fact that they could get a 20 minute tan in only 10 minutes. Besides, more tanners per hour usually doesn't mean more $$ ! |
01-08-2005, 12:28 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 0 | Sally thanks for the info. Yes I'm in a non regulated state. Yes all my beds are 20 minute beds. Only been here for 6 months. Got to go through a busy season before I can afford to buy more equipment. My thinking was to give my customers a choice. I thought I would call it an upgrade bed, but you guys say by changing from Beach Sun to cheeta's that would only create a faster bed not a better tanning bed? Is faster all I'm getting? No other differences in these bulbs? That really surprises me because alot of my tanners at lunch will ask for 15 minutes as they are all in a hurry. I could do 15 minute bulbs though. Sally what 15 minute bulb do you recommend? I just thought the faster I could get them out the happier they would be. You guy's please educate me! And yes the timer will have to be to a 10 minute bed. I would not have it no other way. |
01-08-2005, 07:08 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 25 | Foxy - I would STRONGLY urge you to consider switching at least SOME of your beds over to 15 minutes - now! Many tanners ARE in a hurry and 20 minutes feels more like a half hour by the time they check in, change, etc 15 minutes seems like just 15 minutes! Also - if your rooms/beds get hot (esp with busy season coming), they are more comfortable getting out of there sooner for that reason! Seems like your customers are "ready" for that if "alot of tanners at lunch will ask for 15 minutes as they are all in a hurry". Not sure how many beds you have, but may consider keeping 1 or 2 at 20 minutes for now - for those that are "used" to that and reluctant to change at first. If your lamps are not "ready" to be switched yet, keep the ones you switch out from the other beds and use them to relamp these remaining 20 min beds when it is time - just keep track of how many hours they already had on them so you don't let them run too long and get too weak! The key is letting your customers know that these bulbs are stronger bulbs (as well as brand new fresh - make adjustments on their time for that initially if need be!), intended to give them the same results in 15 minutes as the 20 min bulbs give in 20 minutes. In my area, most salons use 20 minute beds as their base bed and nobody has any problem transitioning to my 15 min beds. And absolutely - let your clients know you are doing this to provide them better "service" - esp those that were having to run in on lunch hour and cut their time short before! This will boost your capacity considerably during busy season too. Same cost/tan, but now, in a 12 hour day, you COULD see as many as 9 extra tanners/bed. In a week, that is 63 extra tans potential. In a month - 250. Now multiply that by several beds over several months! You may not fill every one of those "potential" slots, but even if you only get a few extra in per day, you will be well on your way to making some extra revenue to add that upgrade bed later this busy season! For lamps, I like the Lightsource Midday Sun 5.0 or the Genesis 120W And still re-do your timers so no mistakes can be made! |
03-14-2005, 09:31 AM | #10 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 0 | Lets get serious, you cant turn a 20min bed into a 10min bed with more powerful lamps !!! Not only is that pathetic but illeagl. Get serious get rid of those ancient Egyptian beds and replace them with new technolgy !! LESS TIME = MORE POWER = BETTER Tan in less time !! |
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