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Old 05-03-2002, 08:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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FYI:

A tanning salon owner (Teri) in Nebraska (my "home" state) posted information "over there" stating that the dermatologists at Creighton University in Omaha had, supposedly, taken "swabs" of sunbeds in Nebraska and "proved" that they were "positive" for STD's (sexually transmitted disease). I immediately e-mailed Teri the following information and offered my help. [Note: PLEASE read the "PS" at the end.]

FYI:

I have sent the following information via e-mail to Teri and offered my assistance.

You will find an article in the July, 2001 issue of Looking Fit magazine regarding the transmission of herpes by the serial use of a tanning bed. It can be found at:

http://www.lookingfit.com/articles/171Corner.html

In this article I state that"

Proving The Issue

In order for a tanning salon owner to prove conclusively that there was no HSV on a tanning bed, it would have been necessary to have taken a sample after each tanning session and have it cultured by an independent laboratory.

Likewise, the only way that a client (OR A GROUP OF ANTI-TANNING DERMATOLOGISTS AT CREIGHTON UNIVERSITY!) could prove that they contracted HSV from a tanning bed is for them to have had a sample taken (that would prove to be positive) immediately before they used the tanning bed.

Therefore, it will be necessary to "attac" the validity of the (1) sampling technique, (1) holding time and media,(3) method of analysis, and(4) the "qualifications" of the person taking the sample. Taking a "swab" of a tanning bed (or any other similar surface) is not that easy to do.

In addition, I would HOPE that none of the tanning salons whose sunbeds were "swabbed" by the Creighton people gave their permission. Therefore, I suggest that a lawyer be retained ASAP and protest this "outrage" on the basis of a violation of privacy.

Needless to say, this "data" will be used to write an article for one of the dermatology journals so we will all be hearing more about it.

I will start the ball rolling to "document" the sampling and tesing protocol that would be required to test a sunbed for herpes and/or any other STD (sexually transmitted disease) and I will have a commercial laboratory here take some samples of our sunbeds for comparison.

It never ends!

Don

PS To Bruce: Don't get excited about my breaking my 6 months "silence" on your website. I am only trying to help the people in my old home state and this post doesn't change anything.

Need I say more?

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Old 05-03-2002, 08:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Its a fact that you can catch things from a contaminated surface. It is also a FACT that you will never find tanning beds used to treat skin diseases in hospitals or clinics for that very reason. You will only find BOOTH use for medical treatments do to the no contact with the lighting surface system, a more hygienic system.

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Chippp,

What about the floors of the booths?? Athlete's foot? Plantar warts?? Your claims that booths are more hygenic than beds has no merit. It is COMPLETELY dependant on the person cleaning the unit!
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Don I accidentally removed your reply to Chippp. I was trying to remove the duplicate, and somehow both went away.
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Old 05-03-2002, 09:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Chippp:

Your response to a serious problem was one of the most absurd and irresponsible of a long line of absurd and irresponsible posts!

This IS NOT the time for you to play your silly "booths are better than beds" games! GROW UP!

Now is the time for us all to support our friends in Nebraska because this "data" will soon be used against all of us (including you!).

Hang your head in shame, Chippp!

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Old 05-03-2002, 09:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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I have my opinion just as you do.

You are always talking about freedom of speech, whats up?

You can disagree with me thats your right.

But I have the same right.

I don't agree with your from time to time, but I don't have a fit over it.

Every one here from salon owners to tanning clients can make up thier own minds as to what system they want to use when they tan, and their reasons why or why not.

Do you want everyone that has any different opinions from yours to be banned from stating thier opinion or be banned from TANTALK? I would hope not.








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did you ever hear of sandels or disposible paper mats?
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Don it was good of you to go 'over there' in response to a serious concern, and to offer help as well.

Hope it won't be the last time, and I'm sure Mori would agree...

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Old 05-03-2002, 10:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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FYI:

Listed below is the second post I made to try and help Nebraska tanning salon owners.

FYI To Nebraska Salon Owners:
I just finished talking to a microbiologist (PhD) friend of mine to confirm some things.

First of all, please note that the report stated that "they tested the bacteria count" and the presence of bacteria in a tanning salon doesn't tell you anything because:

1. Bacteria are everywhere in the world. If the TV station had "swabed" and "cultured" the chairs in the Dermatology waiting room at Creighton University, they would have also found bacteria (probably the same organisms!).

2. The "organism" that was "supposedly found" wasn't identified and it is quite possible that it's presence should have been expected.

3. No evidence was presented regarding whether or not the "unnamed organism" that supposedly was found had pathological (disease producing) significance.

4. No evidence was presented to show that "proper technique" was used to obtain the samples without "cross contamination", perhaps caused by the TV station personnel themselves.

5. The "link" between the herpes infection found by the dermatologists and tanning beds is nothing more than anti-tanning speculation UNLESS the dermatologists tested the sunbed IMMEDIATELY BEFORE the patients with herpes used them. Obviously, that did not happen and so this "link" is not proven and cannot be proven.

My advice to the tanning salon owners in Nebraska is:

1. To get a good lawyer TODAY and get ready to file a legal action against (1) the TV station, and, (2) the drmatology group at Creighton University. My guess is that, before this is all over, the TV station will "rue the day" that they let themselves become the "unwitting pawns" of the anti-tanning dermatology community.

2. To arrange to have a commercial medical laboratory take "swabs" under "controlled conditions" at the tanning salons who were "preyed upon" by the TV stations unethical and possibly illegal "sting operation" and have them "cultured" as evidence.

This is an outrage that CANNOT BE TOLERATED by the indoor tanning industry!

Let me know if I can help.

Don

Chippp:

If you are too stupid to understand why your post was not responsible, you are hopeless! It has NOTHING to do with freedom of speech; rather, it has to do with a requirement to not cry fire in a croweded movie theater.

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Old 05-03-2002, 11:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
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Chipp,

Do you sell sandals to every customer? Most of my customers would not want to pay for them. When your customers balk at you when you tell them you have no lay downs, how do you convince them to switch to the stand up? I hope you are not telling them that they are more sanitary, that would be giving our industry (and yourself) a black eye.

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