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Old 04-23-2002, 01:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Bruce, A.K.A., the "Wizzard Of OOZE" responded to someone "chiding" him over at TrashingTheImageOfTanningToday for being "anti-Don" by first "knocking" this website and then saying that the "door was always open" for me to return to the fold.

Hey, Wizzard Of OOZE, I have some advice for you. Don't hold your breath while waiting for the prodigal son to return as long as YOU have anthing to do with the website. It is YOU that I don't have any use for!

[Note: I must admit that I do miss "sparing" with some people from "over there" but perhaps they will "come here" since I am not going to "go there" under the present set of circumstances.]

After all, THIS is where the people are friendly, the women are beautiful and the men are handsome! LOL

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Old 04-23-2002, 05:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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TSK TSK Don. Bruce only OWNS the site. It is for the benefit of the readers and posters (not necessarily the same). So what if you don't like Bruce, so what if Bruce dosen't like you. BOTH OF YOU ... GROW THE FU*(K UP AND GET PAST IT!!!.

WHY PENALIZE THE MANY FOR THE FAULTS OF THE FEW?!
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Good to see you here, Mori!

I excercise my constitutional right that us "Yanks" hold dear to associate with whoever I choose to.

When "you know who" is gone, maybe I'll stop by and see you there. In the meantime, I have no doubt but that you will "liven" things up here.

[BTW, please tell us who Chippp is.]

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Old 04-23-2002, 09:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Don, I am glad Mori is here. I have read posts he has made at tantoday. He is a lively one and he has some good information. From what I have read of his posts he is very plain and brunt, but well educated in our industry.

Welcome Mori,
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Mitzi:

Actually, Mori is a pussycat!

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Thought it was Rod you didn't like. Humm...since my initial judgement call on Rod, that he was a highly intelligent fellow, that given enough exposure to the TanToday FACT FILLED environment, would eventually cause him TO MATURE into a fine budding progressive salon owner [which, Don, he has, and you know it] was proven correct. To your DEEP embarrasment. You need to dance to a different boogeyman to account for your self imposed exile to the sands of Tunisia.

Just to PROOVE the point, I offer to close down the PUB, with ONE proviso, you agree NOT to mention, allude to, trash, whine about, jump up and down, rant, throw hissey fits, about anything, or anybody on TanToday.

But first, you have to show an ability to do that. So here is the deal. We, monitor you, till Friday midnight, you show a demonstrable ablility to be on good behavior and the Pub will be sold to JA for the next show, as a cheaper alternative to the Vandals And Goths show.

Betcha THAT TOO isn't a real reason. AND I'm not either. If I was so out of the loop, then "TheTrashingThrashingBashingDashingYoung Man" site operator site wouldn't be averaging 20,000 pageviews a day and racking up banner bucks right and left, would it?

You have ALWAYS been "Mr. Science" and I've always been "Mr. Communication and Marketing" That irks you, but brilliance in isolation is brilliance wasted.

You have always sought a soapbox, that has been your quest, and my "value" to you from day one, you think this might FINALLY be it, but one is on the corner of Hollywood and Vine, here, the other Wall Street and Madison avenue, there.

Yack away, but LOOK real hard at who is clapping.

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Old 04-24-2002, 09:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Nicer Bruce, but as Clinton said to Monica, close but no cigar. Bruce, the fact is Don is important wherever he goes. That's a fact and you know it otherwise you wouldn't even bother being here.

The beauty of TanToday is that it allows even an old abrasive guy like myself to rant and rave. Don is much more venerated than I am and knows it and probably deserves far more respect than we've given him... some people just don't like to be subjected to childish insults.

You are correct though in your position that Don has cut himself and his information off from a great many more salon owners. I believe that Don is neglecting the fact that Jerry Springer had an unbelievably large following and actually changed the face of television... I'm NOT saying for the better, but deffinitely for the more popular.

Don, you're missing a HUGE audience, one that could really benefit from your input.

Those on this site have good reason to reject the likes of TanToday, it can be a horrible schoolyard battle scene and many intelligent, gentler minded adults take offence... but many many are able to sift through the sh*t to find the gems, and TanToday is a veritable goldmine at the bottom of a sh*thole. I REALLY DO MEAN THAT AS A COMPLIMENT...with a caveat.

Bruce, I really applaud and admire your efforts to correct things with Don. Don, you must know how difficult this is for Bruce but get past him and consider the many that you did have a most positive impact on and will not visit you on this site (for whatever reason).

I also believe that Bruce, you hit the nail right on the head by dividing the positions of strength. Yours in marketing and Don's in information.

DonandBruce... each of you can do just fine without the other, but could do a hellovalot better together.

But then again, WTFDIK (what the fu*k do I know).
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Let's advertise on TT that Don is here at Tan Talk, which would give the "masses who misses" him a chance to stay up to date with his expertise, therefore not limiting his scientific mien from anyone.

Bruce,
I've always been "Mr. Communication and Marketing"? (and delusional I see)

I guess even John Gotti thought he could run his empire from a jail cell, he too thought he was invincible, and above reproach. You may think you are in some way important, however you carry a stigma with you that many of us can not put aside. It colors your words and from many perspectives discounts anything you have to say. When you denegrate women in your posts, when you make fun of your current situation with the law with your snide remarks about your photographic procilivities you do nothing but add to the cocky, lowlife image you seem to cultivate.
Be careful, the investigative reporters at KDKA-TV may be monitoring your posts.

Don,
I have been spending a great deal of time studying the laws here in Florida and the techincal areas of the industry so I have been out of the loop lately. Some things are the same though. It is like a soap opera, you can come back years later and the plot has only advanced a few hours and the same characters are saying the same thing. I am still planning my ride across the lower 48 this summer and am resting in Tuscon on the way home. I hope to see you in early June.
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WTFDIK Mori:

There are currently about 20 people (OK, maybe 25! LOL) in the indoor tanning industry who give a rats *** about what I have to say. My guess is that they know by now that they have to come here or go to the TSO website in order to keep current with my "brain droppings" on the science of tanning.

Bruce:

You sound like a sick person "bargaining" to get his/her health back. "Just get me well, Lord, and I'll quit being such a horrible person." Of course we all know that, if he/she gets well, they will still be the same "horrible" person.

I could care less what you do with the Pub. My guess is that you have already decided to "deep six" it and so have decided to use that decision as a "bargaining chip" in this discussion.

My advice (for which you most certainly DID NOT ask me to give you) is to improve your website and let this one (and Suntanning.com) take care of themselves.

I have a "hunch" that most people are sophisticated enough today to understand that there are "pearls of wisdom" available (occasionally) on all of the websites and so they "check in" to all of them every day or so. Personally, I scan through all of the trade publications for "pearls" and I do the same thing with the various websites.

Finally, take a few moments and go back and review a few of the hurtful things you have had to say about me and TSO over the past two years and (perhaps) you will understand why you and I are (and will remain) enemies.

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Old 04-24-2002, 12:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Someone comes to offer an olive branch (without a pistol in his holster) and you slap them in the face with it.

Don, in all your sanctimonious pontificating (wow) you are NOT blameless in all this. You have also had plenty of shots at Bruce and a great many have NOT been gentlemanly.

I'm sorry that Bruce is even going this far or that you seem to think that he needs to go further.... grow up and take the appologies. You needn't invite him to your house for dinner. Business is business. Sometimes you have to deal with assh*les but big sh*t. You've got the word, he's got the audience. Each of you benefits, big deal. End result is that you reach a wider audience, no extra cost.

Does the concept of syndication come to mind in all of this?
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