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Old 04-21-2002, 10:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Its is all our fault Don....NOT!!!!
here is a link to what we did to distroy the work of many!!?? Pluheasssse..

http://64.70.201.68/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=00452 2

I do have one question though....
If she thinks I am such a retard...why is she so fixated on mentioning my name in every post she could possibly slip my name + A DIG into relivent or not?????
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Old 04-21-2002, 11:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry to be so short but being slapped in the face with the few extended proverbial olive branches...
My cheeks are a liitle sore.

Speak your mind Sheila but Please edit before you post... save me the time and effort of doing so.
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Old 04-21-2002, 11:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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MJ:

~~Sheila finally got it right!

She said ""...the senseless Bashing and Ranting of TanToday.Com."

Let's all commend her for finally realizing and publicly admitting that the "Bashing" and "Ranting" that take place "over there" is TRULY "senseless"!

One can only hope that this new "insight" will help her learn to disagree without being disagreeable and that she will embrace "content" and leave "controversy for the sake of controversy" behind!

Don

PS To ~~Sheila: What is YOUR position on Amendment 3 - Definition of a Manufacturer?
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I went and read it..
Wow..

I think with-out being named out right.. I am the weak..meek..(and I may add oh sooo CHIC ).. one she is speaking of...( just because I don't go in with fangs showing..doesn't mean I'm not firm.) Like I have always said..
I'd like to see us progress.

I'm going to continue to bulid the bridge of communication.

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Old 04-22-2002, 07:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Christine:

And you should.

There is nothing wrong with reasonable people holding different views about the same topic. And there is nothing wrong with reasonable people disagreeing with each other because progress sometimes comes from disagreements among reasonable people.

Hopefully, we can ALL learn to "resectfully disagree" with each other about the topics of importance to the indoor tanning industry without finding it necessary to be "disagreeable" to each other.

I find it interesting to note that, on the one hand, the "other guys" resurrect my old posts regarding "Amendment 3 - Definition of a Manufacturer" and, on the other hand, say horrible and untrue things about me (read ~~Sheila's latest diatribe!).

IF they truly want to discuss the issues of importance to the indoor tanning industry (like Amendment 3 and warning labels), why is the "gratuitous" "badmouthing" of me "over there" necessary? A "friend" in the industry e-mailed me with this question the other day. She/he asked me why, considering what I have tried to do for the industry, ~~Sheila and Bruce (and certain others) were trying so hard to destroy my reputation and, therefore, my "effectiveness" to represent tanning salon owners? This person pointed out that, in her/his opinion, they should ask themselves if what they are doing is designed to help the industry or make them feel good about themselves.

Last night there were several new people asking some very good questions on the Sunday Night Super Chat. I was honored to be able to try and answer them (after everyone else went to bed!) because I can remember only too well how Pat and I felt 6 years ago. I couldn't help but reflect on the fact that while I was doing this, the "other guys" felt it was necessary to spend their tim;e "badmouthing" me behind my back. How is THAT constructive? One would think that IF they had a "bone to pick" with me they would have the courage to do it "face to face" wouldn't you?

So, Christine, I reserve my right to "disagree" with ANYONE about the issues of importance to the indoor tanning industry. The fact that I disagree with someone doesn't mean that I am right and they are wrong or that I am wrong and they are right; rather, it simply indicates that we have differing opinions. The question is, can we "respectfully disagree" with each other without being "disagreeable" (and disrespectful) to each other?

Time will tell.

Don

PS To ~~Sheila and Bruce: What is YOUR opinion about "Amendment 3 - Definition of a Manufacturer" as presently worded? Do you agree or disagree with my position? If you disagree, why?
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Quote: How is THAT constructive? One would think that IF they had a "bone to pick" with me they would have the courage to do it "face to face" wouldn't you?


Uhhh...Don, just WHO is hiding HERE, and refusing to come and discuss things? Seems to ME that most everyone has been here, and YOU are terrified to go THERE.

If you wanted to "face to face" last night, there were 26 people there WAITING for you to show up, and you chose NOT TO.

So, stop the whining. If you have issues to discuss, and want the input from all the FORMER TSO Supporters, you know where they are, you DO read that board constantly, we know that, since your DAILY RANT on what is wrong with that board is here for all to see, including this thread.

So put up, or shut up, go into the "Lions Den" if you have the courage, if not, please refrain from your constant carping.

We don't hesitate to come HERE, in a VERY UNFRIENDLY environment, so we have the courage you seem to lack nowadays.
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Old 04-22-2002, 08:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Rayz:

Posting "over there" would serve only to "benefit" you personally and it would not help the indoor tanning industry. It would also mean that I would be "enabling" you to continue with practices that I find offensive and counterproductive and "condoning" your boorish behavior. Thus, unless and until I observe a "sea change" in the operating philosophy "over there", I will respctfully CONTINUE TO decline to post there. [Note: Until then, you will be forced to resurrect my old posts and try to make it appear that they are new! LOL]

It's nice to know that I can now put a number on how many "enemies and detractors" I have IF all of the 26 people you mentioned were there for the purpose of "badmouthing" me (I would have thought that with all of your "power" to incite people to action, there would have been several thousand there crying for my scalp).

It is obvious to anyone reading your post that you have no intention of being anything other than disrespectful and disagreeable as far as I am concerned.

So, Rayz, I will continue (1) posting here, (2) posting on TSO's website, and, (3) getting ready for the TEPRSSC meeting (what will YOU present there?).

"Is there no respect of place, persons, nor time in you?" [Shakespeare: Twelfth Night]

Don

PS: What is YOUR opinion about "Amendment 3 - Definition of a Manufacturer"?

PS To Christine: Do you STILL want me to try and "make nice" with Rayz?

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"A 'friend' in the industry e-mailed me with this question the other day. She/he asked me why, considering what I have tried to do for the industry, ~~Sheila and Bruce (and certain others) were trying so hard to destroy my reputation and, therefore, my "effectiveness" to represent tanning salon owners?"

This friend obviously feels the regular rants against tt which try to destroy it's reputation, etc, etc, is ok. This friend obviously doesn't consider that most of those threads are a direct response to ones originating here, from you. This friend doesn't understand why people would fight back?

Here's another example of how you and others slant the reality to your perception. Bruce said:

"If you wanted to "face to face" last night, there were 26 people there WAITING for you to show up, and you chose NOT TO."

and your reply,

"It's nice to know that I can now put a number on how many "enemies and detractors" I have IF all of the 26 people you mentioned were there for the purpose of "badmouthing" me (I would have thought that with all of your "power" to incite people to action, there would have been several thousand there crying for my scalp). "

Where in Bruces post did it say that

a. 26 people were there for the purpose of badmouthing you?

b. These 26 people were composed ofenemies and detratactors of you? Unless you're telling us that simply going to a chat on tt.com qualifies you for the Don Smith hate club?

Don, you bring a lot of this on yourself. You insist on taking jabs then run home to tell mommy when the people fight back. You can't have it two ways. You, and others, have a penchant for distorting/twisting words to meet your narrow views/arguements on a subject. You formed several conclusions based on nothing but your own perceptions of the board.

"It is obvious to anyone reading your post that you have no intention of being anything other than disrespectful and disagreeable as far as I am concerned. "

Yes, as far as you are concerned. You daily call tt.com the "trashingoftheindustrywebsite" yet, Bruce is being disrespectful? I read your posts and have to ask myself sometimes, what color the sky is in your world?

Can't you just post your information without taking cheap shots? If you do you'll find the ones coming back will lessen of not go away entirely. But if you continue to rant as you have, you can tell your friend that there is no one to blame but Don Smith for the Don Smith threads on the other site.

Oh and Chris, I don't believe she was referring to you.

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"I would have thought that with all of your "power" to incite people to action, there would have been several thousand there crying for my scalp"

Don, what do you have on your scalp, besides five hairs and plenty of scabby liver spots, would anybody want?

Just wondering

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A fellow old person

P.S. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~this forum should be renamed "Ask Don how he can play the smallest violin ever"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[ This Message was edited by: Lola on 2002-04-22 12:27 ]
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Old 04-22-2002, 09:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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Lowlife Lola:

Actually, there are several AK's on my scalp.

Don

PS: Get a life you anonymous coward!

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