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Old 09-02-2005, 09:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This women was looking for a new lotion and didn't want one with bronzer, however because most bottles say something like la' bronzage in french or something my employee thought they all had bronzer in them! Geez Louise! Have they learned nothing from me! Needless to say, the lady bought NOTHING!!
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've heard of people getting confused by that too. I tell people to look at the ingreidents.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have seen many people get confused by that. If you didn't know, you would think that meant bronzer.
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I've heard of people getting confused by that too. I tell people to look at the ingreidents.

I'll agree about the confusion part. We always have to explain that it is there because it helps you get a better tan.
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Bronzers? Eeeeeeeew, only for those who have a hard time tanning.

Tanning Bronzers are a "dye" that changes the color of your skin instantly. Some people love them and others hate them. Products with "browning", or "bronzer" in the name usually have a really heavy (dark) bronzer. You have to be careful when applying tanning lotions that contain bronzers as some will streak if not applied evenly, also real dry areas of the skin will absorb more of the tanning bronzer and leave the skin a different color. Elbow, knees, between fingers, and palms of hands are the most common spots. Many people that use bronzers will take wipes with them to clean these areas and hands immediately after applying tanning lotions with bronzers.

DHA of course, has a chemical reaction with the skin that changes colour.

How do "bronzing" lotions work? When certain ingredients are added to bronzing lotions, they react with dead cells making up the top layer of the skin to create the desired color. This reaction is temporary and it will only last for two to four days before the artificially-colored cells flake off.

What ingredient or ingredients cause the bronzing reaction? Once again, most manufacturers guard the secrecy of their ingredients; however, the package labels show that various fruit acids and chemicals such as DHA (dihydroxyacetone), which is an extract of sugar cane, are used.





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Bronzers? Eeeeeeeew, only for those who have a hard time tanning.

Once again, most manufacturers guard the secrecy of their ingredients; however, the package labels show that various fruit acids and chemicals such as DHA (dihydroxyacetone), which is an extract of sugar cane, are used.

There are two schools of thought on bronzers in tanning bed lotions (including both DHA and 'instant color' types).

Before I go there, I want to share a little info. DHA helps you get a tan faster, but wears off quickly (colors the outer layer of skin only). The DHA formulation (depending on the manufacturer) can look good or make you look orange. Newer DHA formulations are better than others. DHA also works better on some people than others (depends on the skin's base color and if there is already a base tan). DHA, when in tanning bed lotions, tends to be relatively weak (doesn't give much color and is usually not the 'right' color).

Wash-off instant color (dyes or wash off cosmetics) tends to give you only a slight color in tanning bed formulations. Most lotion manufacturers don't put dark instant color in their tanning bed lotions. In fact, I can't recall finding a tanning bed formulated lotion that had dark instant color. Although, many of these lotions have DHA. Dark instant color is usually found only in sunless tanners found in drug stores. The instant color is usually used as a guide.

Anyway, the first school of thought is that DHA gives instant gratification to tanners who use the beds (they get color quickly, more quickly than a UV tan appears). The tanner may or may not know they are putting DHA on themselves, however. So, the first school of thought is instant gratification. And, rightly, some tanners both want and like this feature.

The second school of thought is that DHA is sort of a way to cheat the customer. Because DHA wears off quickly, the tanner has to come back more often to tan (makes the salon more money on repeat visits). Also, if you sell all your tanners a bronzing lotion (whether DHA or instant color), you don't have to change your lamps as often (saving on costs). The reason you won't have to change the lamps as often is that the DHA tans quickly, so the tanner can't tell if it was the DHA or the bed that tanned them (so weak lamps won't be noticed when DHA is used).

In fact, if the salon carries primarily (or solely) DHA based lotions, that can be indicative that the salon is chincy with their beds (i.e., they don't change the lamps often enough). So, the salon may use the DHA lotions to attempt to make up for the fact that the lamps are old (and not very effective at tanning). Or worse, the salon cheats you out of time (telling you a 20 minute bed is 15 minutes max or a 12 minute bed is 9 minutes max) to save on lamp life (and the DHA is a cheap attempt to make up for the lost time).

That is, versus a salon that carries only (or primarily) accelerators and tingle lotions (without DHA or other bronzers). A salon that is consciencious and knowledgable enough to carry very few DHA based lotions indicates (at least in my mind) that that salon's beds are well maintained and the lamps are changed often (and that they are sincerely trying to give you the best tan possible). Meaning, the owner is confident in his/her lamps in the beds that an accelerator/tingle lotion will work properly and give a quality tan without the need for DHA.

However, if I walk into a salon that primarily (or exclusively) carries and actively pushes DHA-based lotions, I have to be wary of the quality/maintenance of their beds (at least, that's the first thought that goes through my mind). If I want to use a DHA based lotion, that's my choice. But, when I tan in a bed, I don't want to use DHA/bronzing lotions. I want a lotion that works in concert with the UV (tingle or accelerator). If I elect to use DHA, I'll use a product that gives me the color I want (which the DHA bed lotions usually don't do) and use it away from the tanning bed. Self-tanners from drug stores also cost far less and the DHA is much stronger than tanning bed lotions (and can give you better color).

So, if you're a salon owner who carries primarily (or solely) DHA/bronzer lotions, you may be inadvertantly sending the wrong message to your customers about the quality and maintenance habits of your beds (and of your salon in general).[ This Message was edited by: manic_guitar on 2005-09-05 23:36 ]
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How did we get on the topic of actual bronzers? I thought we were talking about employees who thought that accelerators were bronzers because of the french "Lotion de Bronzage" on the package. I'm lost.
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I'll admit that I got off onto a tangent regarding sales of DHA based lotions.. However, we got into discussion of bronzers to explain the difference between them. In fact, it's very much important to understand the subtle differences in verbage on the labels so your employees can understand the differences and sell the proper lotion to your customer.

For example, I have bought lotions with bronzers, dual bronzers, triple bronzers and even lotions with a bronzing complex. And even you have found that 'Lotion de Bronzage' could have meant it contained DHA or some other kind of self or instant tanner, but in that case it didn't.

In fact, I bought the Cote D'Azur Mango Flambe lotion that states 'with EuroVitamin Bronzing Complex'. Yet, this lotion has no self-tanners nor is it tinted, even though it uses the word 'Bronzing'. The 'Bronzing Complex' to which the label refers consists of vitamins (A, E, B, etc). However, when I first read the label, I was confused and had to read the ingredient list to determine if it had self-tanners.

So, what I suggest for your salon is go through each lotion you carry, read the ingredients and separate them into moisturizers, bronzing lotions (DHA and/or tinted) and accelerators (that contain no self-tanners, tanning dyes or otherwise). If you separate the lotions into different shelves or into different locations within your store and then label the area specifically for each type of lotion, then the employees and the customers won't be confused nor will they have to spend time digging through long ingredient labels to determine if it has DHA. I would also do this same categorization with your sample packs as well.

Admittedly, most tanning salon employees are college students or otherwise lower wage help. Therefore, you can't really rely on them to be as enthusiastic about the salon (or the lotions) as the owner. So, as the owner, you might be hard pressed to expect the employees to really read the lotion labels, let alone understand what each ingredient in the lotion is or does. So, having you separate the lotions in advance into categories as they are stocked will keep the confusion to a minimum. Categorization also keeps the customer from having to dig through the labels to determine if it has DHA or tints in the lotion as you've already done that work for them (no matter what the marketing verbage says on the label).

As I mentioned above, it is better to sell accelerator lotions for the beds than lotions with DHA. DHA gives quick color, but wears off fast (and, depending on skin tone, can look yellow, green or orange). I would carry a few DHA based lotions for the people who really love them. But, by and large, your shelves should be primarily stocked with tanning bed accelerators, fewer DHA based lotions and you should also carry a few after tanning moisturizers.

Hope this helps. Good luck.
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