04-09-2010, 08:15 PM | #11 (permalink) |
Join Date: Jan 20 2006 Location: folding towels, cleaning beds, ordering lotions, fixing beds, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Age: 43
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Rep Power: 130 | Re: Revamping a Salon need expert opinions Oh and I think its UVmeter on here is his screen name, you can get a meters from him. |
04-09-2010, 08:22 PM | #12 (permalink) | |
Join Date: Dec 29 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA
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Just because my beds (lamped by someone else) have really old 10 lamps in beds designed (over 20 years ago) for 20 minute lamps doesn't make us unprofessionally operated. Sure if You compare any salon in a small rural town that also is a video store and also is a consignment store to a glossy strip mall tan salon in palm springs or someplace, we look pretty freaking unprofessional, but that is because life is relative. If you compare my store to nearly any salon in my town we look remarkable professional. And no we do not skin type every customer, we ask them how long it takes them to burn. The fact that I am learning all that I can and putting thought into this without just getting the highest wattage, highest UVB % or cheapest lamps should clue you into the fact that I am more professional than 95% of the new salon owners on this board. Your statement was somewhat rude and unhelpful. I already said I understood that the Hi-Tan 10 min lamps are not what the bed calls for, but if I lose my customers because I bought something else, that is more stupid than going with a known lamp, that I know performs well in these beds. | |
04-09-2010, 08:36 PM | #13 (permalink) | |
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04-10-2010, 07:15 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 25 | Re: Revamping a Salon need expert opinions 1. The guy that sells the meters is "Solarmeter" - his name is Steve. 2. You said something in your first post about people going "20 mins or more" - with a lamp that is rated 10 mins, this would be the equivalent of doing 2+ tans in a day. I'm SURE the customers love that - they get twice the results (in theory) for the same price as what the other salons are giving them (assuming they are following recommended lamp and tanning schedules). 3. That said - it IS still hard to believe they are getting a great, brown tan from these beds? Are you/they using lotions? Maybe it is all the bronzers from the lotion? 4. The hard part now will be making the switch.....Customers are used to going in any of the 3 units (is the Sonnebraun also a 24 lamp unit, or does it have more lamps??), for up to 20 mins or more....To suddenly say you have "levels" but using the same beds -- will be a tough sell. It will also probably be tough to get those "old timers" to scale back from wanting to go 20 mins or more, to going only 10 mins or less - even if you tell them it is because of the new lamps. I think trying to turn those 3 existing beds into 3 different "levels" is going to be a challenge. Do ALL customers say they get GREAT color? Have you tried using a sticker for a week of tanning, in the same place each time, to see if you are REALLY seeing a difference? Fresh Hi-Tans, will have more UVB and produce a much "redder" tan which will exfoliate off (and therefore go away) faster. A lamp with more UVA will focus more on "bronzing" - and the results will last longer. There is no way I would run Hi-Tans for 20 or more minutes - regulated or not. But it is your business and ultimately you have to make the decisions. Lots to consider - good luck! |
04-10-2010, 06:23 PM | #16 (permalink) |
Re: Revamping a Salon need expert opinions Interesting read. Just serves as example to remind people that the state level is just ONE of your regulating authorities and the buck does not stop there. http://www.lampcompatibility.com/compatibility.html "And no we do not skin type every customer, we ask them how long it takes them to burn." P.S. You really do need to do a service to your customers and change that form of determination. If you asked me how long it takes me to burn....I have no darn idea.. and I find it hard to believe most people can answer that with true accuracy. I say this with the utmost sincerity and with a passion to keep our industry on board the safe tanning wagon. The subjective determination far outweighs the liability of the objective one. Last edited by CrystalSS; 04-10-2010 at 06:35 PM. | |
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04-12-2010, 02:45 PM | #18 (permalink) | |
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Part of the problem I am having is that I have no tanning training. I ended up managing this business as a favor to a neighbor, then buying it (for an amazing deal) after he ran it into the ground by not letting me actually manage it. Now that I have had it a few months under my own control we are doing well enough we can do things like replace 3 year old lamps. To be honest I had never even tanned when I started here and my education comes from Tan Talk, reading studies on the benefits and risks of tanning beds and industry magazines like SunTimes. I would love to go to a training but as a new business owner I can not make the all 2-3day trip to Seattle needed for a one day training. And to be honest since they are put on by bed and lotion sales companies I am leery to make such a huge effort to get told that what they sell is what I need and how valid an education by that way is. Does the federal government regulate tanning salons? | |
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04-12-2010, 02:57 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Revamping a Salon need expert opinions http://www.sunless.com/choosing/skintype.php http://www.tanningfacts.com/your_skin_type I found these online. This is what I do, so if this is skin typing someone, then we are just lost on semantics but this is the process I do. |
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