JOHN @ URI

It's not about watts with HP.

The parabolic reflector & mirrored glass will put out like a mother.

A 500W-600W Vertical parabolic/mirror set up can easily compete with a 1000W horizontal/mug set up.

I hear the 1050 is pretty aggresive in the face & the body is average.

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YucaTan

So what your saying is the 1050 Sucks! and the Mastersun 360 is a great tan!!!

TomorrowSun

No, i think what they mean is that the 1050 isn't TRUE HP. It can't be marketed the same as the MasterSun or the Magic.

I am sure the 1050 tans great, but you better be carefull cause it looks like it will fry your a$$.

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YucaTan

fry your a$$ with burning rays or the heat?

HOT STUFF

If the 1050 puts out 4 meds to the face in 8 minutes, then it is not a true HP bed. It may use all HP lamps but those numbers are vhr numbers. If you have ever tanned in a S-class, you know what I mean. The facials in the S-class after a couple of minutes make your face feel like it is melting off and a few minutes later you wish it had.

The advantage of a HP bed is high uva and low uvb. You can go the full time or close to the full time right from the start. You don't have to tan as often to maintain your tan because the skin does not exfoliate as often. This only an advantage if it is a lower uvb bed, around 2% or lower. That is why I don't like the combo beds with HP on top and vhr on the bottom. Don't get me wrong, most tan well but you have lost the advantage of the HP side. You have to treat them as a vhr bed.

If you want a bed that puts out vhr numbers, why pay 10k-20k more for a HP bed that tans the same as a S-class or a Sungate. That is why I would have no interest in a Hp bed if it was that high in uvb. I would be looking at beds like the Magic 636 and the Mastersun. Beds that have a lot of tanning ability but are not high in uvb.

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JOHN @ URI

I have heard it from 3 different owners 8-9 min 4/meds on the face is pretty strong.

This is like the BlackSun HP unit. 6 minutes to 4/meds

Regardless, Ergoline will sell hundreds of these units just because they are Ergoline. And people want results for their money spent, there is no doubt you will get color from this machine.

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socaltech

so John does that mean the ergoline 1050 tans similar to a lets say ergoline 650c or does the 650c still tan better than the 1050???? I have heard the 650classic tans better than the ergoline 850. would be funny if it tans better than the 1050??? even being a combo bed

this is a very interesting topic why is ergo selling a so called HP bed but tans like a VHR :(

royalsun