What could be causing this?? - tanTALK

superbronze · 12-13-2006, 06:44 PM

I have all heartland beds in my salon, and they were all running great THEN...one bed has been giving me nothing but trouble. I have an Ovation 134. It originally didnt come with reflector lamps, but I went ahead and put Cosmolux VLR 9K90's in it for my first relamp. Well, I have relamped it at least 3 times its whole life. I put electronic starters in it the first relamp also. Well, lately it has been flickering 3 of my lamps, they light up, dim, light up, dim, and eventually turn off. I have flipped flopped lamps, checked the starters, and checked the voltage. Any idea's what could be causing this? The lamp holders look fine also!

Neon Beach · 12-13-2006, 06:48 PM

And lamps match the orig. wattage installed?

superbronze · 12-13-2006, 06:52 PM

Yeah, they are 100Watt VLR 9K90's...I did do that on my first relamp though, I use 160Watt 9K90's in my stand-up and I accidently put those in 134, of course after the acryllic was in, I looked and I realized, that was sure a pain in the butt!!

Neon Beach · 12-13-2006, 07:01 PM

Har. Well flickering, from what I understand can be a voltage or starter problem. That's the best I can do.... :( Unless someone slipped in one of those blinking lights for christmas.

superbronze · 12-13-2006, 08:58 PM

Do you think it could be a short in the wiring to the lamp holders perhaps?? Tomorrow I am gonna take apart the entire bed and resecure all the wires and do a good cleaning.. Whats weird is I swapped lamps and it definitely isnt the lamps.. I couldnt imagine 3 ballasts going at one time!! Any other ideas? Thanks for your help Neon

Neon Beach · 12-13-2006, 09:17 PM

Well? At this point, w/o further advice, taking the unit "apart" and checking connections is not a bad option. But it still seems strange. Wish I had further info for you, but I'm dumb.

Sarge · 12-14-2006, 07:19 AM

what electronic starters did you put in? You need the right ones for 100 watt lamps. Also, are they the same three lamps? Could be a capacitor issue as well.

superbronze · 12-14-2006, 02:21 PM

I used Smart Start S12 Electronic Lamp Starters.. When you say the same 3 lamps what do you mean. Any lamp will not light up fully in those 3 sockets. If I put the lamps that are flickering in any other socket they start right up, they are probably ruined now from all that flickering though

superbronze · 12-14-2006, 02:23 PM

When I move the starters to another socket they start the other lamps right up to, so I have eliminated those.. I am going to give all the beds in my salon a good cleaning this weekend, and I am going to check out the wires leading up to the lamp sockets and such

hoptan · 12-14-2006, 03:33 PM

Put the regular non-electronic starters back and see if anything happens

12-13-2006, 06:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
superbronze Join Date: Dec 6 2005 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 19	What could be causing this?? I have all heartland beds in my salon, and they were all running great THEN...one bed has been giving me nothing but trouble. I have an Ovation 134. It originally didnt come with reflector lamps, but I went ahead and put Cosmolux VLR 9K90's in it for my first relamp. Well, I have relamped it at least 3 times its whole life. I put electronic starters in it the first relamp also. Well, lately it has been flickering 3 of my lamps, they light up, dim, light up, dim, and eventually turn off. I have flipped flopped lamps, checked the starters, and checked the voltage. Any idea's what could be causing this? The lamp holders look fine also!

12-13-2006, 06:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	Re: What could be causing this?? And lamps match the orig. wattage installed? __________________ www.talktimmins.com -- http://www.drjawnswebworx.com/

12-13-2006, 06:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
superbronze Join Date: Dec 6 2005 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 19	Re: What could be causing this?? Yeah, they are 100Watt VLR 9K90's...I did do that on my first relamp though, I use 160Watt 9K90's in my stand-up and I accidently put those in 134, of course after the acryllic was in, I looked and I realized, that was sure a pain in the butt!!

12-13-2006, 07:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	Re: What could be causing this?? Har. Well flickering, from what I understand can be a voltage or starter problem. That's the best I can do.... :( Unless someone slipped in one of those blinking lights for christmas. __________________ www.talktimmins.com -- http://www.drjawnswebworx.com/

12-13-2006, 08:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
superbronze Join Date: Dec 6 2005 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 19	Re: What could be causing this?? Do you think it could be a short in the wiring to the lamp holders perhaps?? Tomorrow I am gonna take apart the entire bed and resecure all the wires and do a good cleaning.. Whats weird is I swapped lamps and it definitely isnt the lamps.. I couldnt imagine 3 ballasts going at one time!! Any other ideas? Thanks for your help Neon

12-13-2006, 09:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	Re: What could be causing this?? Well? At this point, w/o further advice, taking the unit "apart" and checking connections is not a bad option. But it still seems strange. Wish I had further info for you, but I'm dumb. __________________ www.talktimmins.com -- http://www.drjawnswebworx.com/

12-14-2006, 07:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sarge Join Date: Feb 22 2003 Location: Michigan Age: 59 Posts: 1,389 Rep Power: 25	Re: What could be causing this?? what electronic starters did you put in? You need the right ones for 100 watt lamps. Also, are they the same three lamps? Could be a capacitor issue as well.

12-14-2006, 02:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
superbronze Join Date: Dec 6 2005 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 19	Re: What could be causing this?? I used Smart Start S12 Electronic Lamp Starters.. When you say the same 3 lamps what do you mean. Any lamp will not light up fully in those 3 sockets. If I put the lamps that are flickering in any other socket they start right up, they are probably ruined now from all that flickering though

12-14-2006, 02:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
superbronze Join Date: Dec 6 2005 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 19	Re: What could be causing this?? When I move the starters to another socket they start the other lamps right up to, so I have eliminated those.. I am going to give all the beds in my salon a good cleaning this weekend, and I am going to check out the wires leading up to the lamp sockets and such

12-14-2006, 03:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
hoptan Join Date: Sep 20 2006 Location: North of the Bahamas Posts: 291 Rep Power: 18	Re: What could be causing this?? Put the regular non-electronic starters back and see if anything happens

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