Signature Series Plus-URI - tanTALK

bsmart · 04-30-2004, 01:23 AM

John or Ed, I've got 300 hours on these lamps now and the black ends are really getting bad. They only appear on one end of the lamp though.

I have these lamps in my Tanses U-32 and T-32 beds. I've used Cosmolux and Sig. Series before, but not gotten this much 'black end' in either case before. I am using electronic starters which is supposed to help prevent black ends. With this few hours on the lamps, I'm disappointed. They are cranking out the UV, but the lamps look bad to the clients. Any news of a 'bad' run of lamps?? I can get you some production numbers if that would help.

SUNBDZ · 04-30-2004, 01:41 AM

sig is the way to go ill get you hooked up

JOHN @ URI · 04-30-2004, 08:17 AM

We only run into that problem on Tanses beds. I had a similar problem with a customer in PA. For some reason his other beds with Sig Plus & electronic starters are fine, just the Tanses beds get black!

There have been no problems with the Signature Series line of lamps.

Did you have electronic starters in the bed before using the Sig Plus?

_________________
[ This Message was edited by: JOHN @ URI on 2004-04-30 08:19 ]

police lt · 04-30-2004, 09:37 AM

john i have a tan america stand up and they don't even have ten hours on them and the ends are turning black.

JOHN @ URI · 04-30-2004, 11:39 AM

It is common for the ends of 160w lamps to turn black. Your Tan America unit most likely does not have Electronic starters in it. We are talking about end blackening with electronic starters.

BSmart, no one ever claimed that the lamps would not get black, the starter manufacturer claimed that the starters will prevent end-blackening. Maybe you should contact the manufacturer of the starter!

bsmart · 05-01-2004, 01:01 AM

John, in the U-32 YES, in the T-32's NO.

Gene · 05-04-2004, 04:20 PM

How have those new Light Sources CCT lamps performed? They're supposed to exhibit little to no lamp end darkening.

JOHN @ URI · 05-05-2004, 09:53 AM

Gene, The CCT will never get black ends. It is impossible!

The CCT has similar output to the Signature Series. We have had some trouble with electronic starters & the CCT. Although if you buy the CCT you won't need the electronic starter anyway!

lampman · 05-05-2004, 04:35 PM

The tan america bed uses a rapid start ballast with an extremely high open circuit voltage. The lamp will actually strike off the cup of the mount causing the cup material to be slightly burnt and causes a black ring around the cup area of the lamp. I have seen this on lamps made by 2 manufacturers using the enclosed filament like the cup cathode

engfant · 05-05-2004, 09:58 PM

Boy this reminds me of another post stating how much better magnetic ballasts are than choke...

Send me 4 dozen of the ccts and for my sundazzler and I GAURANTEE I'll get em to turn black WITH electric starters.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Specs on the Signature Series HOR/HP in 100W Bi-pin	engfant	Tanning Equipment	3	08-10-2004 03:21 PM
In Stock Now at URI- Signature Series VHOR/HP & HOR/HP	JOHN @ URI	For Sale - FOR SALON OWNERS ONLY	3	05-15-2004 11:39 AM
Introducing the new Signature Series VHOR/HP	JOHN @ URI	For Sale - FOR SALON OWNERS ONLY	1	03-13-2004 12:22 AM
ProSun Sapphire Series	yoco	For Sale - FOR SALON OWNERS ONLY	0	01-17-2004 10:46 PM
VHR-tt vrs. signature series	pete	Tanning Equipment	5	07-30-2003 09:56 PM

04-30-2004, 01:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
bsmart Join Date: May 2 2002 Location: 2621 W Main Suite 9 Posts: 616 Rep Power: 22	John or Ed, I've got 300 hours on these lamps now and the black ends are really getting bad. They only appear on one end of the lamp though. I have these lamps in my Tanses U-32 and T-32 beds. I've used Cosmolux and Sig. Series before, but not gotten this much 'black end' in either case before. I am using electronic starters which is supposed to help prevent black ends. With this few hours on the lamps, I'm disappointed. They are cranking out the UV, but the lamps look bad to the clients. Any news of a 'bad' run of lamps?? I can get you some production numbers if that would help.

04-30-2004, 01:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
SUNBDZ Join Date: Apr 26 2004 Location: Dartmouth Posts: 272 Rep Power: 20	sig is the way to go ill get you hooked up

04-30-2004, 08:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
JOHN @ URI Lamp Geek Join Date: Dec 21 2001 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,913 Rep Power: 23	We only run into that problem on Tanses beds. I had a similar problem with a customer in PA. For some reason his other beds with Sig Plus & electronic starters are fine, just the Tanses beds get black! There have been no problems with the Signature Series line of lamps. Did you have electronic starters in the bed before using the Sig Plus? _________________ [ This Message was edited by: JOHN @ URI on 2004-04-30 08:19 ]

04-30-2004, 09:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
police lt Join Date: Jun 23 2003 Location: edison and woodbridge, nj Posts: 41 Rep Power: 0	john i have a tan america stand up and they don't even have ten hours on them and the ends are turning black.

04-30-2004, 11:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
JOHN @ URI Lamp Geek Join Date: Dec 21 2001 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,913 Rep Power: 23	It is common for the ends of 160w lamps to turn black. Your Tan America unit most likely does not have Electronic starters in it. We are talking about end blackening with electronic starters. BSmart, no one ever claimed that the lamps would not get black, the starter manufacturer claimed that the starters will prevent end-blackening. Maybe you should contact the manufacturer of the starter!

05-01-2004, 01:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
bsmart Join Date: May 2 2002 Location: 2621 W Main Suite 9 Posts: 616 Rep Power: 22	John, in the U-32 YES, in the T-32's NO.

05-04-2004, 04:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gene Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Dec 8 2000 Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	How have those new Light Sources CCT lamps performed? They're supposed to exhibit little to no lamp end darkening.

05-05-2004, 09:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
JOHN @ URI Lamp Geek Join Date: Dec 21 2001 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,913 Rep Power: 23	Gene, The CCT will never get black ends. It is impossible! The CCT has similar output to the Signature Series. We have had some trouble with electronic starters & the CCT. Although if you buy the CCT you won't need the electronic starter anyway!

05-05-2004, 04:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
lampman Join Date: May 27 2001 Posts: 204 Rep Power: 23	The tan america bed uses a rapid start ballast with an extremely high open circuit voltage. The lamp will actually strike off the cup of the mount causing the cup material to be slightly burnt and causes a black ring around the cup area of the lamp. I have seen this on lamps made by 2 manufacturers using the enclosed filament like the cup cathode

05-05-2004, 09:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
engfant Join Date: May 20 2003 Posts: 9,301 Rep Power: 29	Boy this reminds me of another post stating how much better magnetic ballasts are than choke... Send me 4 dozen of the ccts and for my sundazzler and I GAURANTEE I'll get em to turn black WITH electric starters.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)