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Old 10-03-2002, 12:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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John, do you guys carry these starters at URI? I'm considering using the Philips 160R lamps, and it sounds like I need these starters to go with them. Are they expensive?
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www.amexport.com has the solar starters they work good.
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We also stock electronic starters. Give me a call with your needs
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what is the cost for the electrnic starters?
what are the advantages/disadvatages to using them? do they reallyperform for ten years?
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Solid state means completely electronic, no moving parts. Standard starters are basically neon lamps with bi-metal electrodes that act like a reed contact to provide pre-heat to the lamp. The heating and cooling takes the "spring" out of the bi-metal strips and causes the starter to malfuntion or flutter causing black ends. Electronics don't wear out since they produce no movement thus providing long life and trouble free service. Putting a life span on a product appeases the cry babies in the event of failure.
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Standard starter.



Electronic starter.

As shown in standard starter illustration, the phosphors are polluted by emissive materials.

With electronic starter you get an even emmission over the whole cathode, which will prevent end blackening & pollution of the phosphors.



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ONE TIME Starter Replacement @ 6.50 ea
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Old 10-11-2002, 12:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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$6.50 EA?

You can buy most of them for $4.50 ea.
10 year warranty
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John, I would like to point out that the starter when used in its rated range provides the time needed for full heating of the cathode, just like an electronic unit, or a properly applied Rapid start ballast. However when a 140W starter is used at 160-200W the contacts can stick and bimetals can get overheated. We are introducing a glow starter designed to work at these higher wattages and intend to introduce it in November.
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Philips,
As you well know the S12 starter is the "staple" or most common starter in the Tanning bed business. The S12 starter is only rated up to 140w. The problem is: is that most OEM's have been using this starter in 160W & up units for years. I believe that the S12 is also rated for 6000 cycles (starts)at 140 watts. This would mean that the starter should be changed about every other lamp change on a 140w unit.
How does running the starter at 160W compare?
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