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Old 06-04-2002, 09:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I was at tanses in montreal and was asking them about their booths, and what they thought of the new 200 watt system, they told me it wasnt true it was a 180 watt system? ok so now I am confused I just paid 15,000 dollars for a 180 watt system?
Someone please tell me what is going on
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Old 06-04-2002, 09:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The misunderstanding is based on the number 200. Most manufacturers are going to the longer lamps for more coverage. These lamps are 200 centimeters from tip to tip. Unscrupulous advertising has led many to believe that their 200 was in fact 200 watts, not 200 centimeters and they played on this misconception.

BUT, IF you TRUST some of the advertising, Suncapsule has a 71 inch lamp that is supposedly equiped with a better cathode (why don't they just make these standard for longer life of ALL lamps) and they are powered by 200 watt ballasts. IMHO I think that they work better because they have been made so much closer to the body... such that a person of my stature (hey!!!) cannot fit comfortably in the unit without bumping into something hot. As well, raising the Voltage coming into the beds will raise the "wattage" performance of the lamps because wattage is a simple association of amperage times voltage... raise the voltage and up goes the wattage.
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ok mori now that makes more sense to me, thanks for clearing that up.
Now I am a very happy camper.
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Old 06-04-2002, 04:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Suncapsule has a 180 Watt system and a 200 Watt system. The latest being the 200. It actually uses 200W ballast's to drive their NEW 200 watt lamps. I spoke with Mr. Franks from Cosmedico at the Nashville show, about recurring problems, with the 160 Watt lamps. They were failing between 400-600 hours in my Suncapsule booth, but I had no failures of the same lamp in my 160 Watt Tanses beds. He described what Suncapsule was doing with their booths prior to the 200 Watt system. They had designed it to run at 180W by 'tweaking' the capacitor values with their 160W ballasts'. If the incoming voltage was the least bit above 220, the lamps can't stand it. He went on to explain that Cosmedico's 1st version of the 200W lamp was deficient in its cathode design. In October 2001 they re-designed the cathode of the 200W lamp, and believe it has cured the problem of early lamp failures. I have a set of them in my Suncapsule now, but don't have enough hours on them yet to know. It will be next season now before I'll have the answer for myself. Rest assured, there IS a difference between the 200W lamp and the 160W lamp, and it is noticable in the Suncapsule, both in measurable UV output via 5.0 Solarmeter, and intensity on the skin!!
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In my SunCapsule booths, my Cosmedica 200 watt lamps began to fail at 400 hours. Each lamp costs $36. Canadian, so you can imagine the cost of lamps at 54 per booth. My supplier told me that the new lamps should last much longer as Cosmedico has made improvements. Time will tell.
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Good reason to stick with the 160 {168) watt VHO lamp, they are a better cost and dramatically out perform the 100 watt lamps. Plus you can buy the VHO 160 watt lamps in UVB % from 2 % to 8.9 % uvb. and in reflector and non reflector.

They are made by almost every manufacturer and you can shop around.

Its a good thing!
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Old 06-07-2002, 11:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Chipp's got a good point here about compatible lamps for the 160W. BUT, if you're gonna use 160 lamps in the Suncapsule you will need the supply voltage to be about 210-215 volts. Reason is, Suncapsule uses a lead-lag ballast/capacitor setup that boosts the effective voltage INSIDE the Suncapsule! If you have 220 volts incoming, it ends up pushing the lamps to about 180W vs. 160W. Thus the premature lamp failures. I learned this all the hard way, tons of lamp failures at about 200-300 hours as others described here. I went round and round with Suncapsule folks to resolve the problem. I think we're finally there.
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Old 06-11-2002, 03:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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That's news to me. SunCapsule told me for best performance to run the booster to 240 volts. Had periodic lamp failures but nothing too bad. I lowered the booster to 223 because it was too friggin hot at 240.
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