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Old 05-27-2002, 10:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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If you put 100W lamps in a bed using Magnetic Ballast's that were meant for 120W lamps, what is this going to do to the performance of the 100W lamps? Will the ballast overdrive them and cause them to have a shorter life? Will the lamps produce the same expected performance as the 120W lamps? Will there be a overall poorer performance of the bed with this configuration?
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You will get the same answer over here. The lamp is 100 watts. It is labeled 120 not 120 watts. There is no 120 watt lamp. It is marketing hype. The ballast is 100 watts. It is marked 120 not 120 watts. GET IT!
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Its a con!
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Clients don't let your salon con you!
Demand the most effective lamps, they are always 160 watt or higher, don't be ripped off!
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Old 05-28-2002, 04:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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100 watt lamps are very efficient IF you are looking to a 100 watt system. The 160 watt system is used for speed but the advantage of speed is offset by the fact that an 8 minute session in a VHR just dosen't get the tan to last as long nor does it allow for the greater beneficial health factors derived from longer sessions in a 100 watt bed with little UVB but 20-30 minute sessions.

The only benefit to the tanner for VHR is speed. The rest of the benefits are to the salon owner. Until VHR hit the block, 100 watt technology was trying to speed up he session by raising the quantity of UVB. The more UVB, the redder the tan. The redness comes from blood flowing into the area of damage.

Because of the brevity involved in the VHR system session, it becomes much, much easrier for the "counter-girl" to make a mistake and put the client in for too long a time... OVEREXPOSURE.

My favorite session (and the most healthfully beneficial) is a large, comfortable bed with 100 watt lamps of no more than 2.5% (sorry for using % but this way, even though ridiculously innacurate... we all know what I'm reffering to) for a 30 minute session.
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OK, so you're saying the Sun Ergoline 1200 mA ballast does NOT equate in any way to increased output to 120 watt lamp!! All this 120 labeling is a crock of bull !! Does the typical 100 watt system have ballast rated at 1000 mA?? If so, can it drive the lamp as well as the 1200 mA ballast? Is this all meaningless to the tanner using the bed?? Is there NO improvement in the overall tanning result? Then why not label the system as 100 watt and be done with it?? Is this a marketing scheme mis-representation, or pure and simple desception??
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We have been told by numbers of clients and we have found from our own experance over the last 20 years our shop has been open, that the tan lasts much longer with the 160 watt lamps and short sessions then the lower wattage 100 watt lamps with long slow sessions.
That you can maintain a tan as well with much fewer sessions then you can with any 100 watt lamp.
Thousands and thousands of our clients know this from their own experance.

The tan is longer lasting with the 160 watt lamps.
That the health benifits of vitamin D is just the same with short session with a 160 watt lamp as with the 100 watt and longer sessions.

Stop spreading misinformation!
Please educate your self.

The 30 min bed is the cheapest lowest quality bed money can buy and its been obsolete for almost 15 years now.
I don't even think you can buy those low quatily beds for home use anymore.

Clients say away from 30 min beds they are the cheapest and totally suck. The only reason salons buy or have 30 min beds is because they are so cheap to buy!
You can buy 3-4, 30 min beds for what you would pay for 1 booth!
30 min beds are the worst tanning machines you can buy!


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Sorry you are wrong!
Where did you dream that up?

We have been told by numbers of clients and we have found from our own experance over the last 20 years our shop has been open, that the tan lasts much longer with the 160 watt lamps and short sessions then the lower wattage 100 watt lamps with long slow sessions.
That you can maintain a tan as well with much fewer sessions then you can with any 100 watt lamp.
Thousands and thousands of our clients know this from their own experance.

The tan is longer lasting with the 160 watt lamps.
That the health benifits of vitamin D is just the same with short session with a 160 watt lamp as with the 100 watt and longer sessions.
The 100 watt lamps used in 30 min beds are the cheapest least effective lamp money can buy!
The 160 watt lamps or higher cost 2-4 times more then the 100 watt lamps!
Salons that use systems with the 160 watt lamps are providing the clients with the most expensive and most effective lamps, clients should aloways ask for them!

Stop spreading misinformation!
Please educate your self.


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Chipppppppp you nafta guys make me laugh so much, so you say a 160 watt vhr is 2-4 times the price of a 100watt vlr-tt.its only 3.00$us maybe in nafta land you get ripped off like that but not in the states.your comments on 100 watt systems are so comical it is obvious you have smoked too much loco weed.
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On 2002-05-30 11:33, Chippp wrote:
You can buy 3-4, 30 min beds for what you would pay for 1 booth! 30 min beds are the worst tanning machines you can buy!


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