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12-20-2001, 10:09 PM | #1 (permalink) |
Join Date: Feb 11 2000
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Rep Power: 25 | Senerio: Puretan 28 lamp 20 min. beds come shipped with Puretan S+ lamps. They can also take the Puretan R+ lamps (Per the Owners Manual) No other lamp brand is listed as being a compatible substitute. Distributor has compatibility sheet showing Wolf lamp to be compatible to Puretan S+ as well as another wolf lamp to be compatible to Puretan R+. You buy and install the substitute lamp because they are a better deal. Health Dept. inspects and informs you that you are in violation because the compatibility sheet was not produced by the manufacturer. Remember I am in Texas. Are my assumptions on this law correct? |
12-20-2001, 10:43 PM | #2 (permalink) |
Join Date: Nov 2 2000 Location: GA & TN
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Rep Power: 0 | Hi VIP, maybe I can help answer your question. A replacement lamp would have to have a user instruction sheet that listed it as a compatible replacement for a lamp that is listed on the label of the bed and in the owners manual. The user instruction sheet should come inside every box of lamps and it is proper for it to be printed by the lamp manufacturer. A distributor should not type thier own compatibility sheets, if that is part of your question. Texas is very strict and you should keep this user instruction sheet handy so you can provide to the inspector upon request. I don't think that Wolff provides a user instruction sheet listing any Puretan lamps as compatible, although I do believe Puretan has listed thier lamps as compatible to the Wolff Bellarium-S at some time in the past. This compatibility cannot be used in a reversing manner. The sheet you are required to produce is very specific and cannot be altered by anyone. Do not try to add or take away from any info on the form and you should not have a problem. |
12-20-2001, 10:44 PM | #3 (permalink) |
Join Date: Nov 2 2000 Location: GA & TN
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Rep Power: 0 | Hi VIP, maybe I can help answer your question. A replacement lamp would have to have a user instruction sheet that listed it as a compatible replacement for a lamp that is listed on the label of the bed and in the owners manual. The user instruction sheet should come inside every box of lamps and it is proper for it to be printed by the lamp manufacturer. A distributor should not type thier own compatibility sheets, if that is part of your question. Texas is very strict and you should keep this user instruction sheet handy so you can provide to the inspector upon request. I don't think that Wolff provides a user instruction sheet listing any Puretan lamps as compatible, although I do believe Puretan has listed thier lamps as compatible to the Wolff Bellarium-S at some time in the past. This compatibility cannot be used in a reversing manner. The sheet you are required to produce is very specific and cannot be altered by anyone. Do not try to add or take away from any info on the form and you should not have a problem. |
12-20-2001, 10:45 PM | #4 (permalink) |
Join Date: Nov 2 2000 Location: GA & TN
Posts: 196
Rep Power: 0 | Hi VIP, maybe I can help answer your question. A replacement lamp would have to have a user instruction sheet that listed it as a compatible replacement for a lamp that is listed on the label of the bed and in the owners manual. The user instruction sheet should come inside every box of lamps and it is proper for it to be printed by the lamp manufacturer. A distributor should not type thier own compatibility sheets, if that is part of your question. Texas is very strict and you should keep this user instruction sheet handy so you can provide to the inspector upon request. I don't think that Wolff provides a user instruction sheet listing any Puretan lamps as compatible, although I do believe Puretan has listed thier lamps as compatible to the Wolff Bellarium-S at some time in the past. This compatibility cannot be used in a reversing manner. The sheet you are required to produce is very specific and cannot be altered by anyone. Do not try to add or take away from any info on the form and you should not have a problem. |
12-20-2001, 10:45 PM | #5 (permalink) |
Join Date: Nov 2 2000 Location: GA & TN
Posts: 196
Rep Power: 0 | Hi VIP, maybe I can help answer your question. A replacement lamp would have to have a user instruction sheet that listed it as a compatible replacement for a lamp that is listed on the label of the bed and in the owners manual. The user instruction sheet should come inside every box of lamps and it is proper for it to be printed by the lamp manufacturer. A distributor should not type thier own compatibility sheets, if that is part of your question. Texas is very strict and you should keep this user instruction sheet handy so you can provide to the inspector upon request. I don't think that Wolff provides a user instruction sheet listing any Puretan lamps as compatible, although I do believe Puretan has listed thier lamps as compatible to the Wolff Bellarium-S at some time in the past. This compatibility cannot be used in a reversing manner. The sheet you are required to produce is very specific and cannot be altered by anyone. Do not try to add or take away from any info on the form and you should not have a problem. |
12-20-2001, 10:45 PM | #6 (permalink) |
Join Date: Nov 2 2000 Location: GA & TN
Posts: 196
Rep Power: 0 | Hi VIP, maybe I can help answer your question. A replacement lamp would have to have a user instruction sheet that listed it as a compatible replacement for a lamp that is listed on the label of the bed and in the owners manual. The user instruction sheet should come inside every box of lamps and it is proper for it to be printed by the lamp manufacturer. A distributor should not type thier own compatibility sheets, if that is part of your question. Texas is very strict and you should keep this user instruction sheet handy so you can provide to the inspector upon request. I don't think that Wolff provides a user instruction sheet listing any Puretan lamps as compatible, although I do believe Puretan has listed thier lamps as compatible to the Wolff Bellarium-S at some time in the past. This compatibility cannot be used in a reversing manner. The sheet you are required to produce is very specific and cannot be altered by anyone. Do not try to add or take away from any info on the form and you should not have a problem. |
12-21-2001, 03:01 PM | #7 (permalink) |
Lamp Geek Join Date: Dec 21 2001 Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Rep Power: 23 | Wolff does have compatibilty to the Puretan s+, which would be the Wolff Dominion. I do not think that they have a lamp compatible with the Puretan R+. If you need these forms please email me and I can fax them to you.Yes this will work in Texas, have used many times. |
12-21-2001, 10:11 PM | #8 (permalink) |
Join Date: Feb 11 2000
Posts: 211
Rep Power: 25 | OK, so let me get this straight. Some time back I substituted Inter Electric Super Sun lamps (with a 6.5, or 7.5 UVB - I can't remember) in my Puretan Beds. Upon Inspection I produced the full listing of all of the Inter Electric compatible lamps. The Inspector said that since the list was not produced by PURETAN, the manufactuer of the bed, I was in violation. Since we at the time had several issues in the works with the Health Dept. I did not argue and replaced them promply with out any argument. Now that I have time to re-hash what happened, I don't see how a bed manufacturer could monopolize their clients that way, if you know what I mean. Could it be that the inspector was confused? I don't recall what sheets were sent in the box with the Inter-Electric lamps, but I know I had the list (several pages long and can be printed from Inter-Electric's web site) and proudly presented to the inspector upon his request. I do know that the Puretan s+ lamps have a 5% UVB, so how can they be truly compatible with a 6.5 or 7.5 UVB? The testing (MED and TM) is performed by the bed manufactuer, right? |
12-22-2001, 08:34 AM | #9 (permalink) |
Join Date: Nov 2 2000 Location: GA & TN
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Rep Power: 0 | It looks like your inspector may have made a mistake. The user instruction sheets produced by the lamp manufacturer meet the requirements Texas. I agree with John, that his sheet from Wolff Systems will work fine if the Puretan S+ is listed on the Dominion Compatibility Sheet. Testing of the equipment is done differently than testing of lamps for compatibility. Lamp manufacturers perform testing on thier own lamps and others, that allow them to list various lamps as equivelent. Being listed as equivelent does not mean that the lamps are identical. It is very possible that a 6.5 would be within the guielines to be listed as compatible to a 5.0. I haven't seen a 7.5 like you mentioned with a 5.0 listed on it's sheet, but I guess one could exist. Another thing that might help.... Check the label on your bed to see if the Puretan S+ is the only lamp listed as a replacement lamp. I know there are many Puretan beds out the that list the Wolff Bellarium S as a replacement lamp too. If this is the case, it will give you many other choices for your next lamp change because there are more lamps that list the Bellarium-S on the sheet than the Puretan S+. ps. I don't know how my other post got listed 3 times. I guess I triple clicked by mistake. |
12-23-2001, 03:08 PM | #10 (permalink) |
Join Date: Feb 11 2000
Posts: 211
Rep Power: 25 | Some of my puretans have the Wolf bellarium as a compatible replacement, however most of my Puretans are newer and do not list the Wolf Bellarium. By the way I was told by the Health Dept that I could not use a lamp COMPATIBLE to to the Wolf bellarium in those beds, only Wolf Bellarium, since we could not cross reference 2 times...if you know what I mean. I am interested in re-lamping with something other than Puretan lamps this season... I think before I dish out the dough, I'll call them and get their permission... Your information was quite helpful... Thanks |
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