jlynnh73

ok this is prob. a dumb question but... what exactly are the benefits of a bed with a facial tanner in it?Is it for people who have a hard time tanning there face, or is it more gentle on the facial skin?

Chippp

The reason for face tanning lamps in beds is because the lamps used in tanning beds are the low wattage "100 watt" made for inexpensive home use,that use the less inexpensive ballast's which are really the big cost of the equipment and make up the largest cost of any bed or booth.The 100 watt lamps are not a high enough out put at the ends to tan the face well.so to make up for this the face lamps are used to make up for the deficiency of the 100 watt lamps.The 160 watt lamps used in most booths and a few tanning beds do to heat problems with the bed design, are of high enough out put from end to end to tan the entire body evenly, face as well.The 100 watt lamps just aren't effective enough to do a head to toe even result, hence facial bulbs are used as a supplement.That is one of the reasons clients and owners prefer tanning booths.They are the original 160 watt lamp units.The high pressure lamps used as facial lamps need filter glass to protect the skin from high levels of uvb and uvc that the bulbs emit, this is scary because if the filter fails , breaks ,or someone replaces it with regular glass,the rays from the lamps are very dangerous.The part of the uva spectrum that the high pressure lamps use are a controversy now that wolff has invented a new low pressure uva lamp that is said tonot use the spectrum peek that high pressure lamps use because that is the part of the spectrum that causes aging of the skin.Simply they are uses to supplement the weak 100 watt lamps used in beds.

jlynnh73

ohh ok thanks i get it now

Tut

Hello,I'm sorry but, I just had to respond to chipps absurd response to your question about facial tanners.Chipp seems to have an agenda that goes beyond giving good and proper advice to people who are honestly looking for answers to good questions.Facial tanners are most definitly not a suppliment to lack of power in a 100w lamp.Facial tanners are considered to be an upgrade item available to virtually every tanning bed and even a few booths that are on the market today!Salon owners choose beds with facial tannersto provide an increased amount of UVA to their clients.The facial area is a more difficult area of the body to tan compared to the rest of the body. Primarily due to the fact that the face generally has more constant exposure to the natural elements of the sun.It is true that beds with facial tanners have considerations to think about.facial tanners range typically from 400w to 2000w. There are some heat considerations involved with these.However, the scare tactics that chipp was trying to employ make no sense!Most bed manufacturers that utilize facial tanners also utilze safety switches!,this is a switch that automatically shuts a facial lamp off if the filter glass breaks! I suggest if you are considering purchasing a facial bed ask the manufacturer if the bed is equippted with these safety switches.Facial tanners are used virtually in every part of the united states and many other countries and have been being used for many years.I suggest any salon owner know all aspects of whatever type of beds or booths that are in ther salons,Most importantly the properusage and safety factors concerned with their equipment.You should know, that facial tanners properly used can enhance the tanning capablity of all types of lamp configurations.UVA facial lamps used in conjunction with low pressure lamps can be and has proven to be very benificial to many tanning clients for many years, just be aware of the proper maintanance and operating procedures like you would any other piece of equipment in your salon.I hope this gives you a better understanding of facial tanner usage.

Chippp

TutThe fact still is that the 100 watt lamps used in most tanning beds will not effectively tan your face or lower legs do to the FACT that the out put at the ends of the lamps is lower then in the center, too low to do the job.That the 100 watt lamps have too low an output.That is why 160-200 watt lamps are used in better equipment.I suggest anyone try a tanning bed without facial lamps and then try a bed or booth with 180 -200 watt lamps and see for your self what tans you face better, it will be clear.As I said facial units are to compensate for the lack of tanning effectiveness of 100 watt lamps.Your misleading comments will be discovered by clients and your credibility will be lost.

Chippp

tut own words :"Salon owners choose beds with facial tannersto provide an increased amount of UVA to their clients." You said it your self!!>So if as you say 100 watt lamps give 4med to the face, by adding even more uva with a facial lamp to this would make the output higher then allowed by law. >>>160-200 watt lamps will give 4 med to the face and lower legs. No need for facial units to provide an increased amount of UVA to the face.The 100 watt lamps alone will not provide this alone.Please talk to the manufacturer of the tanning equipment about this before you buy.

Chippp

Once again we see facial lamps and the filters they require can be a hazard to the tanner.Most bed manufacturers that utilize facial tanners also utilze safety switches!,this is a switch that automatically shuts a facial lamp off if the filter glass breaks! I suggest if you are considering purchasing a facial bed ask the manufacturer if the bed is equippted with these safety switches.

JeffinKC

Chipppy, how can you be an authority on so many things that you know so little about?Adding high presure facial lamps to a bed has NOTHING to do with a lack of tanning ability of a 100 watt lamp. Beds with 160 watt lamps use facial lamps as well. Their are also lamps commonly called spagheti lamps that are smaller 15-25 watt lamps used for your face. I would ask you Chipppy if you own, use, or have ever even seen a bed with high presure lamps but I know I won't get anything other than a stupid response. This post though is my exact problem with Chipppy because some people here may actually believe what this idiot tells them. So go back to your posts on urination Chipppy or go away.

Tut

Mr.Chipp,I've been reading some of your posts throughout this site and i've read some of the responses you have gotten !first off, it is obvious you are an advocate of booths and that is fine. As I listen to your words it becomes clear to me that your experience is limited to outdated booths utilizing magnetic ballast systems and wire mesh grids. I'm glad to hear you have had much success with them. I have been to salons in Canada and I know that salon customers do want and need a variety of systems for their tanning requirements.open your mind and face reality!your statements about many different lamp types available to booths is not neccessarily correct,also there are many booths out their that require starters andsome booths that have acrylics.I think your scare tactics and limited exposure to all types of equipments should be enough to limit your responses to some of these questions people are asking but, that does not seem to be the case!If you truely want to be helpful to people please realize that other peoples needs are more important than your need to spout false and inaccurate info.to try to make your agenda be known. I could guess what type of equipment you are running and you need to know that there is better and more modernup to date equipment out there.I also believe that the booth industry would appreciate a much better more reliable,honest spokesperson.You have brought this criticism on yourself others on this site have recognized your agenda and I for one think that you are having a negative effect all the way around!So please if you care about the industry as a whole realize the damage you are inflicting and cease. Credibility is something you not seem to know much about or care to consider.If you have responsible comments to make lets hear them if not go write a book!!!Just saying something does not make it true! the problem is some of the people who read your responses do not know any better!You say you have been in this ind. for a while now. Don't you think its time to treat our industry with enuogh respect to be honestthat is if you can. The days of the used carsalesman have been over for some time now!Welcome to the the modern age of tanning.Nothing personal!

Brian Oshman

Tut: Extremely well put. jlynnh73, Chippy has no clue. Do a search and see what I mean.