Flooring - Page 5

tanUtopia · 07-10-2006, 08:37 PM

Body Glow, how did your floors turn out? What acid stain brand did you use. Anything you would have done differently? Forgive me if I'm pestering you. I plan on doing stained concrete and would appreciate any tips. :)

international · 07-11-2006, 09:00 AM

i want to do the stained concrete def. here but will i have to move the beds out of the room which means totally taking them apart! is there any way i could cover them and just do it around them? or would that be impossible.

HunyBunns · 07-11-2006, 10:33 AM

We have two salons...the first has carpet and the second has tile flooring. The tile floor takes twice the work to clean with sweeping, mopping, waxing, buffing, blah blah. The carpet gets dirty yes, but it's much easier to maintain IMO.

TheSunHut · 07-11-2006, 01:37 PM

Just in case any one still wants info on flooring try lino strips. We recently had a flooring issue as well and were looking for a very low cost option that didn't look cheesy. We found the linoleum wood look strips at Lowe's for $.98 / sq ft. and it went down like a breeze. The best part is that it will hold up to heavy traffic and still be easy to clean. My customers have gone nuts over the change.;)

Marca · 07-11-2006, 01:41 PM

Any pictures?

mistonz · 07-12-2006, 03:44 PM

Okay everyone I see people are still talking about stained concrete and the ease and the diffuclut parts, I will tell you as a new salon owner and also a former Concrete foreman, for a major construction company in southern utah, I have done insode and outside concrete for over 7 years, I have done plenty of concrete stains inside homes, and business and outside on driveways and walkways, I have been thinking alot lately about either going for the stained and stamped concrete or just the stain, there are a few things you should know before staining your concrete1. if your concrete has already been previously sealed, you must completely()very inmportant to get all the previous seal off) remove all the old seal or your going to have a very big mess with the seal peeling off in spots, and not absorbing into the concrete, also there is alot of different brands of acid stains out there I suggest you do your homework and get your phonebook out and call a local Concrete supply company, (not a concrete pouring or service company) It must be a supply depot, They can tell you all the different brands they carry, ask them what one they prefer(believe me Concrete Guys talk)They will tell you what brand is seems to do the best job, I used all different brands and the generics seemed to work as well as the fancies(you decide not my responsibility)Okay next thing 2. make sure you are prepared and know what your doing, concrete staining is very simple and you shopuld be able to DIY(do It yourself) You must make sure the area is not wet, any water will repel the stain,if you need to clean the area wait atleast 48hrs before applying the stain to make sure the concrete is completely dry,(just because it looks and feels believe me it isnt.) the next thing 3. YOu better where gloves and clothes you can get diorty, this is important your not going to get the stain off your hands very easy, and your clothes will probably be stained also permanent. (so be prepared to get dirty) Okay nexrt thing 4. make sure anything you dont wanna get stained is moved covered very well or sealed with something ,and non-pourus. okay next thing. Alright fellow friends I know this is long but i wanted to get this thread some info that is not shared very much at all believe me people dont wanna tell you how easy it is or they will be outta business. okay 5. i am going to begin the diy stages on the stain, If you dont wanna know this please dont read, I am actually heading to a movie right now and unable to finish the thread completely but i will tell everyone this If i can get some response on this thread before tonight or maybe tomorrow, I will go ahead with a diy play by play of how to acid stain your floors in great detail it is very simple once known, and i promise you all you can do it for a **** of alot cheaper then your going to pay someone to do it, I will now private message everyone in this forum to see if they are interested, if they are I will continue tonight or tomorrow thanks everyone and TO BE CONTINUED......

mistonz · 07-12-2006, 03:46 PM

Okay everyone I see people are still talking about stained concrete and the ease and the diffuclut parts, I will tell you as a new salon owner and also a former Concrete foreman, for a major construction company in southern utah, I have done insode and outside concrete for over 7 years, I have done plenty of concrete stains inside homes, and business and outside on driveways and walkways, I have been thinking alot lately about either going for the stained and stamped concrete or just the stain, there are a few things you should know before staining your concrete1. if your concrete has already been previously sealed, you must completely()very inmportant to get all the previous seal off) remove all the old seal or your going to have a very big mess with the seal peeling off in spots, and not absorbing into the concrete, also there is alot of different brands of acid stains out there I suggest you do your homework and get your phonebook out and call a local Concrete supply company, (not a concrete pouring or service company) It must be a supply depot, They can tell you all the different brands they carry, ask them what one they prefer(believe me Concrete Guys talk)They will tell you what brand is seems to do the best job, I used all different brands and the generics seemed to work as well as the fancies(you decide not my responsibility)Okay next thing 2. make sure you are prepared and know what your doing, concrete staining is very simple and you shopuld be able to DIY(do It yourself) You must make sure the area is not wet, any water will repel the stain,if you need to clean the area wait atleast 48hrs before applying the stain to make sure the concrete is completely dry,(just because it looks and feels believe me it isnt.) the next thing 3. YOu better where gloves and clothes you can get diorty, this is important your not going to get the stain off your hands very easy, and your clothes will probably be stained also permanent. (so be prepared to get dirty) Okay nexrt thing 4. make sure anything you dont wanna get stained is moved covered very well or sealed with something ,and non-pourus. okay next thing. Alright fellow friends I know this is long but i wanted to get this thread some info that is not shared very much at all believe me people dont wanna tell you how easy it is or they will be outta business. okay 5. i am going to begin the diy stages on the stain, If you dont wanna know this please dont read, I am actually heading to a movie right now and unable to finish the thread completely but i will tell everyone this If i can get some response on this thread before tonight or maybe tomorrow, I will go ahead with a diy play by play of how to acid stain your floors in great detail it is very simple once known, and i promise you all you can do it for a **** of alot cheaper then your going to pay someone to do it, I will now private message everyone in this forum to see if they are interested, if they are I will continue tonight or tomorrow thanks everyone and TO BE CONTINUED......

billable · 07-12-2006, 03:51 PM

Ok, the black is a little easier to read, but it is still kinda small. How about next time just a little bigger for all of us old guys out here that our eyes are going?

Mali · 07-12-2006, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by international

i want to do the stained concrete def. here but will i have to move the beds out of the room which means totally taking them apart! is there any way i could cover them and just do it around them? or would that be impossible.

what kind of floor is in the rooms?

If it is carpet, why not leave the carpet in the rooms and put threshoulds in the doorways to transit the concrete to carpet??

My hubby wanted to do the stained concrete in our salon, wish i would have let him..... I love the way it looks.

mistonz · 07-12-2006, 07:46 PM

Okay I am going to start a little earlier if I run out of time forgive me I still have to go pick up my wife from the airport, okay as I previously stated make sure your areas is clean very clean this is the most important thing everything is taped off and everything is covered, the stain with actually stain anything it touches so you must be very careful, okay if your done with this step --2.-- Okay now it is the time to get ready supplies needed--1 gallon or bigger sprayer, you don’t need anything fancy a typical sprayer for like insecticide/pesticide sprayer is perfect I prefer getting the metal or tin ones, they seem to hold up better and less problems then plastic ones cost $12-35 dollars(depending on what type and brand)--of course your preference of acid stain You can purchase acid stain by the gallon on EBay for pretty cheap(I would) or go to your local concrete supply don’t go to home depot or lowes please they are not quality concrete supplies stores. You can choose pretty much any color you need, but if you decide to change color in the middle of your work. please cleannnnn out your sprayers veryvery well before you do or your going to clog your sprayer/(also never let your sprayer nozzle completely dry with stain or clear coat inside it please, or your going to have to buy a new one ) next you also need to pick up from the same concrete store or you can also get this from lowes or home depot if you choose(clear coat is okay from home depot or lowes)Clear coat, you need to read the direction on the clear coat and make sure you get the right stuff and make sure you don’t get anything that is real slow drying or that needs direct sunlight to cure(or your going to be waiting a very long time) the brand as far as clear coat goes is not really that important as long as you get the right stuff period!!! next you will need of course some fans rotating blower fans seem to work the best if your in a hurry or if your not in that big of hurry for curing just let them air dry, this part is depending on whether your already open in your store, because know one will be allowed to walk on or even near the new coatings once you have put them down, if you do get someone clumsy and walk on them you are pretty much S.O.L. because there really isn’t anyway of getting shoe prints out of stain you could try and over stain after but your just gonna be wasting more time and energy plus you probably depending on the color wont even notice it unless you are looking for it, Okay next I am going to go over how to begin your process, Okay you will begin by reading over all directions as far as mixing and etc, once you have mixed and poured into your sprayer your ready to begin the fun and excited yet somewhat challenging part of your exercise, What you will want to do is start in the very rear of your area, thus moving forward as you work( so you don’t walk on it) begin in a little area and test color if you haven’t done so yet,(good idea to make sure you have desired color) okay now begin to evenly spray your concrete area back and forth until you seem to have a nice even clean coat if you look heavy in areas its okay once it dries you should be able to come when its dry and see that most of the overflow has been absorbed into the concrete, (this is why you cant have already cured or pre stained concrete)If you are not satisfied with the first layer you can go over the area as many time as you like with it but once it has dried it may not be able to absorb or hold color as well as you would have liked, It is very important you try and get the desired application the first time for that reason. Okay if you are wondering how to add multi colors or different designs you may add stencils to the area, and block them off with tape, to be stained different colors or assorted colors after your first application, if you see some places with what looks like they have a bunch of different colors it is because 1 they either special mixed colors 2. they just added another layer of color with a separate sprayer a little bit after the first layer (like 2 to 4 hours after) and thus getting that look or 3 they had taped off different sections or different designs and sprayed them all separate, it is time consuming but will look outstanding, I have ran out of time wife needs a ride so once again TO BE CONTINUED IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS RIGHT AWAY BEFORE I GET BACK TO THIS JUST EMAIL ME AT westcoastransport@usa.net

07-10-2006, 08:37 PM	#41 (permalink)
tanUtopia Join Date: Apr 27 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Re: Flooring Body Glow, how did your floors turn out? What acid stain brand did you use. Anything you would have done differently? Forgive me if I'm pestering you. I plan on doing stained concrete and would appreciate any tips. :)

07-11-2006, 09:00 AM	#42 (permalink)
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07-11-2006, 10:33 AM	#43 (permalink)
HunyBunns tanTALK'S Stickiest Bunns Join Date: Nov 12 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 37 Posts: 1,506 Rep Power: 8	Re: Flooring We have two salons...the first has carpet and the second has tile flooring. The tile floor takes twice the work to clean with sweeping, mopping, waxing, buffing, blah blah. The carpet gets dirty yes, but it's much easier to maintain IMO.

07-11-2006, 01:37 PM	#44 (permalink)
TheSunHut Join Date: Jun 20 2006 Location: Ashford, Alabama Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Re: Flooring Just in case any one still wants info on flooring try lino strips. We recently had a flooring issue as well and were looking for a very low cost option that didn't look cheesy. We found the linoleum wood look strips at Lowe's for $.98 / sq ft. and it went down like a breeze. The best part is that it will hold up to heavy traffic and still be easy to clean. My customers have gone nuts over the change.;)

07-11-2006, 01:41 PM	#45 (permalink)
Marca I'm Banned Join Date: Mar 17 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 7,065 Rep Power: 0	Re: Flooring Any pictures?

07-12-2006, 03:44 PM	#46 (permalink)
mistonz Join Date: Jul 12 2006 Location: tTah Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Re: Flooring Okay everyone I see people are still talking about stained concrete and the ease and the diffuclut parts, I will tell you as a new salon owner and also a former Concrete foreman, for a major construction company in southern utah, I have done insode and outside concrete for over 7 years, I have done plenty of concrete stains inside homes, and business and outside on driveways and walkways, I have been thinking alot lately about either going for the stained and stamped concrete or just the stain, there are a few things you should know before staining your concrete1. if your concrete has already been previously sealed, you must completely()very inmportant to get all the previous seal off) remove all the old seal or your going to have a very big mess with the seal peeling off in spots, and not absorbing into the concrete, also there is alot of different brands of acid stains out there I suggest you do your homework and get your phonebook out and call a local Concrete supply company, (not a concrete pouring or service company) It must be a supply depot, They can tell you all the different brands they carry, ask them what one they prefer(believe me Concrete Guys talk)They will tell you what brand is seems to do the best job, I used all different brands and the generics seemed to work as well as the fancies(you decide not my responsibility)Okay next thing 2. make sure you are prepared and know what your doing, concrete staining is very simple and you shopuld be able to DIY(do It yourself) You must make sure the area is not wet, any water will repel the stain,if you need to clean the area wait atleast 48hrs before applying the stain to make sure the concrete is completely dry,(just because it looks and feels believe me it isnt.) the next thing 3. YOu better where gloves and clothes you can get diorty, this is important your not going to get the stain off your hands very easy, and your clothes will probably be stained also permanent. (so be prepared to get dirty) Okay nexrt thing 4. make sure anything you dont wanna get stained is moved covered very well or sealed with something ,and non-pourus. okay next thing. Alright fellow friends I know this is long but i wanted to get this thread some info that is not shared very much at all believe me people dont wanna tell you how easy it is or they will be outta business. okay 5. i am going to begin the diy stages on the stain, If you dont wanna know this please dont read, I am actually heading to a movie right now and unable to finish the thread completely but i will tell everyone this If i can get some response on this thread before tonight or maybe tomorrow, I will go ahead with a diy play by play of how to acid stain your floors in great detail it is very simple once known, and i promise you all you can do it for a **** of alot cheaper then your going to pay someone to do it, I will now private message everyone in this forum to see if they are interested, if they are I will continue tonight or tomorrow thanks everyone and TO BE CONTINUED......

07-12-2006, 03:46 PM	#47 (permalink)
mistonz Join Date: Jul 12 2006 Location: tTah Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Re: Flooring Okay everyone I see people are still talking about stained concrete and the ease and the diffuclut parts, I will tell you as a new salon owner and also a former Concrete foreman, for a major construction company in southern utah, I have done insode and outside concrete for over 7 years, I have done plenty of concrete stains inside homes, and business and outside on driveways and walkways, I have been thinking alot lately about either going for the stained and stamped concrete or just the stain, there are a few things you should know before staining your concrete1. if your concrete has already been previously sealed, you must completely()very inmportant to get all the previous seal off) remove all the old seal or your going to have a very big mess with the seal peeling off in spots, and not absorbing into the concrete, also there is alot of different brands of acid stains out there I suggest you do your homework and get your phonebook out and call a local Concrete supply company, (not a concrete pouring or service company) It must be a supply depot, They can tell you all the different brands they carry, ask them what one they prefer(believe me Concrete Guys talk)They will tell you what brand is seems to do the best job, I used all different brands and the generics seemed to work as well as the fancies(you decide not my responsibility)Okay next thing 2. make sure you are prepared and know what your doing, concrete staining is very simple and you shopuld be able to DIY(do It yourself) You must make sure the area is not wet, any water will repel the stain,if you need to clean the area wait atleast 48hrs before applying the stain to make sure the concrete is completely dry,(just because it looks and feels believe me it isnt.) the next thing 3. YOu better where gloves and clothes you can get diorty, this is important your not going to get the stain off your hands very easy, and your clothes will probably be stained also permanent. (so be prepared to get dirty) Okay nexrt thing 4. make sure anything you dont wanna get stained is moved covered very well or sealed with something ,and non-pourus. okay next thing. Alright fellow friends I know this is long but i wanted to get this thread some info that is not shared very much at all believe me people dont wanna tell you how easy it is or they will be outta business. okay 5. i am going to begin the diy stages on the stain, If you dont wanna know this please dont read, I am actually heading to a movie right now and unable to finish the thread completely but i will tell everyone this If i can get some response on this thread before tonight or maybe tomorrow, I will go ahead with a diy play by play of how to acid stain your floors in great detail it is very simple once known, and i promise you all you can do it for a **** of alot cheaper then your going to pay someone to do it, I will now private message everyone in this forum to see if they are interested, if they are I will continue tonight or tomorrow thanks everyone and TO BE CONTINUED......

07-12-2006, 03:51 PM	#48 (permalink)
billable I'm Banned Join Date: Feb 1 2006 Location: Tennessee Age: 47 Posts: 4,181 Rep Power: 0	Re: Flooring Ok, the black is a little easier to read, but it is still kinda small. How about next time just a little bigger for all of us old guys out here that our eyes are going?

07-12-2006, 07:46 PM	#50 (permalink)
mistonz Join Date: Jul 12 2006 Location: tTah Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Re: Flooring Okay I am going to start a little earlier if I run out of time forgive me I still have to go pick up my wife from the airport, okay as I previously stated make sure your areas is clean very clean this is the most important thing everything is taped off and everything is covered, the stain with actually stain anything it touches so you must be very careful, okay if your done with this step --2.-- Okay now it is the time to get ready supplies needed--1 gallon or bigger sprayer, you don’t need anything fancy a typical sprayer for like insecticide/pesticide sprayer is perfect I prefer getting the metal or tin ones, they seem to hold up better and less problems then plastic ones cost $12-35 dollars(depending on what type and brand)--of course your preference of acid stain You can purchase acid stain by the gallon on EBay for pretty cheap(I would) or go to your local concrete supply don’t go to home depot or lowes please they are not quality concrete supplies stores. You can choose pretty much any color you need, but if you decide to change color in the middle of your work. please cleannnnn out your sprayers veryvery well before you do or your going to clog your sprayer/(also never let your sprayer nozzle completely dry with stain or clear coat inside it please, or your going to have to buy a new one ) next you also need to pick up from the same concrete store or you can also get this from lowes or home depot if you choose(clear coat is okay from home depot or lowes)Clear coat, you need to read the direction on the clear coat and make sure you get the right stuff and make sure you don’t get anything that is real slow drying or that needs direct sunlight to cure(or your going to be waiting a very long time) the brand as far as clear coat goes is not really that important as long as you get the right stuff period!!! next you will need of course some fans rotating blower fans seem to work the best if your in a hurry or if your not in that big of hurry for curing just let them air dry, this part is depending on whether your already open in your store, because know one will be allowed to walk on or even near the new coatings once you have put them down, if you do get someone clumsy and walk on them you are pretty much S.O.L. because there really isn’t anyway of getting shoe prints out of stain you could try and over stain after but your just gonna be wasting more time and energy plus you probably depending on the color wont even notice it unless you are looking for it, Okay next I am going to go over how to begin your process, Okay you will begin by reading over all directions as far as mixing and etc, once you have mixed and poured into your sprayer your ready to begin the fun and excited yet somewhat challenging part of your exercise, What you will want to do is start in the very rear of your area, thus moving forward as you work( so you don’t walk on it) begin in a little area and test color if you haven’t done so yet,(good idea to make sure you have desired color) okay now begin to evenly spray your concrete area back and forth until you seem to have a nice even clean coat if you look heavy in areas its okay once it dries you should be able to come when its dry and see that most of the overflow has been absorbed into the concrete, (this is why you cant have already cured or pre stained concrete)If you are not satisfied with the first layer you can go over the area as many time as you like with it but once it has dried it may not be able to absorb or hold color as well as you would have liked, It is very important you try and get the desired application the first time for that reason. Okay if you are wondering how to add multi colors or different designs you may add stencils to the area, and block them off with tape, to be stained different colors or assorted colors after your first application, if you see some places with what looks like they have a bunch of different colors it is because 1 they either special mixed colors 2. they just added another layer of color with a separate sprayer a little bit after the first layer (like 2 to 4 hours after) and thus getting that look or 3 they had taped off different sections or different designs and sprayed them all separate, it is time consuming but will look outstanding, I have ran out of time wife needs a ride so once again TO BE CONTINUED IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS RIGHT AWAY BEFORE I GET BACK TO THIS JUST EMAIL ME AT westcoastransport@usa.net

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