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Old 06-21-2005, 09:02 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I was going to say stay away from Sunfabrications, but since they've already closed up shop and skipped town, I don't have to say it now. Too bad because Pano had something good going with the beds, if he wasn't such a scam artist and liar!!!


This is NEWS to me. When did this happen???

From what I can tell, this has all happened in the past few days. I saw a group of people at the Vegas show wearing T-shirts that said something like "Number of times Pano lied: 10. Now that's great customer service!!!"
So, apparently he has angered quite a few people. I know of a couple of salon owners here in Northern California that were completely stiffed by Pano. He promised them beds with facials and the facials weren't even approved by the FDA yet for those beds. So, he took their money and didn't produce the beds. Now he's gone....
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:48 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:23 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Ultratan......I will forget that I am a Moderator on this site ( hope the rest of ya understand) it does not take much for me to figure out where you are from and the company that you work for ,I don't know who you are but it is clear as to what YOU are.....

For anyone that has read the above PLEASE Know that this person is has lied to all of you and has slandered Panos good name. I personally know him & know that you post's are nothing more than a lie.... streight up Not true..period SunFabrications has gone NOWHERE . I know this for a FACT.

Pano has spent the last 15 years (at least ) building his reputation & good name in this buisness & not for someone like you to come here and tell us a bunch of BS, pure & simple.

I know that those who do know Pano realize that he is the best at what he does and that he puts his heart & soul into his work & client's , let alone he is probably under paid for what he does.

HOW DARE YOU.......GET A LIFE
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:29 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Woo hoo!

In any case Pano has responded to this rumour twice today. He is not down and out!!
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Old 06-23-2005, 05:36 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Definitly NOT Down & out !
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My gut was correct. Sorry if I offended mr Pano. Good job on those beds.
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Dear Aloha Tan "mediator" ~ I feel you are abusing your right to mediate on this site! You have removed several posts on this topic and I think it is unfair! I know for a FACT that some of the recent posts are true made about certain bed companies and when you remove them, you are not giving all the newbies a chance to properly hear all sides from people who have been in this industry longer and have dealt with crooks! Come on! Have you ever thought the salon owners that give out negative feedback may have a REASON why they say those things. I assure you I am not a jealous or mean person....just a salon owner that was screwed out of $15,0000 from one of these bed companies! I wouldn't be surprised if you removed this post also to keep your name clean!
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Must be nice to be one of the "Protected" bed companies. Any unhappy customers of Ergo, UWE, Ultrasun, can speak their minds.

But don't talk about certain companies on this site unless you have something positive to say.


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Old 06-28-2005, 05:49 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Pano has contacted me and at his request I have made all censored posts made to view. Pano has yet to receive a call from those who have posted complaints about him or his company Sun Fabrications. If you have any complaints please contact Pano.
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Old 06-28-2005, 06:33 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Any company, or any distributor for any company, can, sometimes, do someone, wrong.

That doesn't mean they always act that way, or everyone feels the same way.

"Unhappy customers" who "speak their mind" about a company are generally allowed to vent. Have to take those "opinions" with a grain of salt - like everything you read on these things!! Just because someone types it, or types it 10 different times, doesn't make it true. Remember, it is a SMALL subset of all the people in the world who know anything about tanning that actually participate on these boards!

But for someone to come on and say a company has

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...closed up shop and skipped town...


that the owner is

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...such a scam artist and liar!!!...


and then come back with....

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From what I can tell, this has all happened in the past few days....

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....apparently he has angered quite a few people....

sounds like someone who isn't speaking from direct knowledge, if ANY knowledge.

Yet, again, closes with an inflammatory

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...So, he took their money and didn't produce the beds. Now he's gone....

And no more specifics than that! Just a "calling out" of a company, saying they maliciously cheated folks before going out of business - none of which has been able to be verified in any fashion!!

I'd put much more stock in what Pano wrote than some anonymous poster! Just my opinion, having actually KNOWN Pano!
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