Minutes - Page 2

pam · 02-23-2004, 02:09 PM

Thanks, tak. I have never used minutes and was just wondering how it works. With sessions and a very pale person, I will sometimes add a couple of extra sessions in the beginning if they are only going 5-6 minutes per session to start.

Pam

ALOHATANCA · 02-23-2004, 03:41 PM

I recently changed from sessions to points, I think that I will make more $$$ this way. For hard to tan tanners we let them have one month for $49, then swithch them to points...Why points?? Because 1-they never expire. 2- it opens the Salon up to all( I have a good mix of differnt equipment) and I get a differnt amount on each unit.

I also feel that minutes are bad for us salon owners.I also think that we are proving a SERVICE to them no matter hoe long they go in for....linda_________________

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Neon Beach · 02-23-2004, 05:30 PM

Quote:
On 2004-02-22 21:22, total eclipse wrote:
Why do you feel that you would be ripping people off? A session is a session! Whether someone goes in for 5 mins or 20 mins, it is still one session. You are in the business to make money, aren't you? Do you feel ripped off when someone buys a month unlimited and tans 20-25 times that month? Just my opinion.

I agree, clients are there to gain a tan, so if it takes a several sessions at less than max. times to achieve that tan so be it. It's the end results that they are paying for not time. It's not like a phone card.

pam · 02-23-2004, 09:13 PM

I guess that is how I feel and why I have never seriously selling minutes. I agree that we sell tans not time. I don't, however, mind giving someone who is starting out at very few minutes per visit an extra session or two to get their base going. I don't always do it but on occasion if someone is really pale, I will. Since we don't do appointments, I can get someone else in as soon as they are done with very little down time.

Pam

BronzeBiz · 02-24-2004, 01:45 AM

I have both minute and session packages. I like the flexibility of being able to get people started with lower bed times and they feel like they are getting a better deal. We have our prices structured where once they get past 18 minutes, it is more cost effective to go to sessions. I don't feel that people drag them out and I also feel like we sell more lotions over the package time. Our customers like the fact that we are trying to give them the best tanning experience for their dollar.

On our minutes packages we have the heading "A Smarter Way to Build Your Tan Minute by Minute." We tell customers that as long as they are not burning, go ahead and increase your tan time by 2 minutes each visit, coming 2 to 3 times per week. Then when they get up to 18 minutes, it is time to switch to session packages.

pam · 02-24-2004, 05:03 AM

That sounds like a good way to sell it to beginners. Do you have others who buy it also, or do you only offer it to beginning tanners?

Pam

sunkissedtan · 02-24-2004, 01:04 PM

I sell by the package and minutes, I determine how long a person will tan and how long it will take them to build up to 20 min. If they are very pale and are going only 5 - 6 min. I suggest the minutes, if they are going to be at 20 min. rather quickly, I suggest for them to purchase the package of visits. My customers like that I try to give them the best deal for their money. Usually the beginners that are starting real slow have been my best lotion buyers. They want to do all they can do to get a tan, they will buy lotion and moisturizers because they know that getting a tan is not easy for them.

ALOHATANCA · 02-24-2004, 05:17 PM

Pamtails...I like your set-up and I just might do what you posted above..Thanks for the info..Linda

BronzeBiz · 02-24-2004, 09:03 PM

PamTan, I offer minutes to whoever wants to buy them. Most takers are new to tanning. I have had a lot of "older" first time tanners, sufferers of Seasonal depression, arthritis, or just want to get ready for a trip. I suggest that they start with minutes to get up to speed. Some of my elderly customers only want to go for 10 minutes max (in a 20 minute bed) Oh BTW this fits me too... I never go more than 10 minutes... My employees tease me, call me a tanning weany! ha!

MJ · 03-20-2004, 02:14 PM

Randy and Lisa..
I recieved a PM from a fan..and responded ....in short. Don't call me dearest if you don't want me to check your closet for wire hangers.
Quote:LaDeDah

Posts: 28
From: Plymouth, Maine
Posted: 2004-03-17 19:48
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Dearest MJ,
I am not sure what a distie is, but from the "tone" of your response it appears to me that it was a mean dig. My sympathies to you. I am new here, not a spammer, I dislike SPAM and rude people. I love to assist people and was so excited to find this site; purely by accident I might add. If you happen to start getting SPAM related to Cinnamon Bay, I assure you I had nothing to do with it. Thank you for the extra attention, and again, I am sorry to hear such negativity from someone. I hope things get better for you and you feel better about yourself soon. I am not here to bicker or play immature games. I simply want to clear up your misinformation ~ Pam

LaDeDah's Profile | Reply
My original response was deleted..why?????
I do not know. The second evil was my response to brat like mods who made the final decision to censor me.

I remember to save that one.
Quote:I see censorship is still very much alive and well here. WHAT I SAID I HAD EVERY RIGHT TO SAY. Now no need to get your pals to warn me to death Cya! Until the coward that edited me can be seen...and states their reasons....I will not bother to visit here.

That was a clean post.... no ****, ***, *******, skrew, *****, tramp, ****, words were used. If words like 'disdain' and 'remedial' are comsidered "bad here. Then, Fhuck you people! In the future I will just reply (if at all) on Tanformation.com where the mods from CesorshipRus.com cannot evil eye my OPINION. Especially when this person called me out to play.

You guys can go back to watching grass grow or paint dry.
I will post a board free of anal retentive closed minded simpltons in charge of what is said or not said. Does it agree with the banners advertisers? Or will on a board where they cater to whining posters that bring the shiiit on themselves..and can't take it when you smack them back. I am getting really tired of cutting and pasting all my posts into word because certain people think the evil eye is their you play toy.
Buh Bye now.

PS I saved this post to..I guess censorship is alive and well here even without the brat. :eyeroll:

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02-23-2004, 02:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
pam Police Department Join Date: Oct 29 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,036 Rep Power: 9	Thanks, tak. I have never used minutes and was just wondering how it works. With sessions and a very pale person, I will sometimes add a couple of extra sessions in the beginning if they are only going 5-6 minutes per session to start. Pam

02-23-2004, 03:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
ALOHATANCA Police Department Join Date: Nov 14 2003 Location: CALIFORNIA Age: 49 Posts: 4,436 Rep Power: 8	I recently changed from sessions to points, I think that I will make more $$$ this way. For hard to tan tanners we let them have one month for $49, then swithch them to points...Why points?? Because 1-they never expire. 2- it opens the Salon up to all( I have a good mix of differnt equipment) and I get a differnt amount on each unit. I also feel that minutes are bad for us salon owners.I also think that we are proving a SERVICE to them no matter hoe long they go in for....linda_________________ [ This Message was edited by: ALOHATANCA on 2004-02-23 15:56 ][ This Message was edited by: ALOHATANCA on 2004-02-23 16:21 ]

02-23-2004, 05:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
Neon Beach I'm Banned Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 45 Posts: 52,065 Rep Power: 0	Quote: On 2004-02-22 21:22, total eclipse wrote: Why do you feel that you would be ripping people off? A session is a session! Whether someone goes in for 5 mins or 20 mins, it is still one session. You are in the business to make money, aren't you? Do you feel ripped off when someone buys a month unlimited and tans 20-25 times that month? Just my opinion. I agree, clients are there to gain a tan, so if it takes a several sessions at less than max. times to achieve that tan so be it. It's the end results that they are paying for not time. It's not like a phone card.

02-23-2004, 09:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
pam Police Department Join Date: Oct 29 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,036 Rep Power: 9	I guess that is how I feel and why I have never seriously selling minutes. I agree that we sell tans not time. I don't, however, mind giving someone who is starting out at very few minutes per visit an extra session or two to get their base going. I don't always do it but on occasion if someone is really pale, I will. Since we don't do appointments, I can get someone else in as soon as they are done with very little down time. Pam

02-24-2004, 01:45 AM	#15 (permalink)
BronzeBiz I love Derf!! Join Date: Nov 10 2003 Location: IN Posts: 445 Rep Power: 5	I have both minute and session packages. I like the flexibility of being able to get people started with lower bed times and they feel like they are getting a better deal. We have our prices structured where once they get past 18 minutes, it is more cost effective to go to sessions. I don't feel that people drag them out and I also feel like we sell more lotions over the package time. Our customers like the fact that we are trying to give them the best tanning experience for their dollar. On our minutes packages we have the heading "A Smarter Way to Build Your Tan Minute by Minute." We tell customers that as long as they are not burning, go ahead and increase your tan time by 2 minutes each visit, coming 2 to 3 times per week. Then when they get up to 18 minutes, it is time to switch to session packages.

02-24-2004, 05:03 AM	#16 (permalink)
pam Police Department Join Date: Oct 29 2001 Location: USA Posts: 5,036 Rep Power: 9	That sounds like a good way to sell it to beginners. Do you have others who buy it also, or do you only offer it to beginning tanners? Pam

02-24-2004, 01:04 PM	#17 (permalink)
sunkissedtan Join Date: Jul 9 2003 Location: Funky Town Posts: 643 Rep Power: 7	I sell by the package and minutes, I determine how long a person will tan and how long it will take them to build up to 20 min. If they are very pale and are going only 5 - 6 min. I suggest the minutes, if they are going to be at 20 min. rather quickly, I suggest for them to purchase the package of visits. My customers like that I try to give them the best deal for their money. Usually the beginners that are starting real slow have been my best lotion buyers. They want to do all they can do to get a tan, they will buy lotion and moisturizers because they know that getting a tan is not easy for them.

02-24-2004, 05:17 PM	#18 (permalink)
ALOHATANCA Police Department Join Date: Nov 14 2003 Location: CALIFORNIA Age: 49 Posts: 4,436 Rep Power: 8	Pamtails...I like your set-up and I just might do what you posted above..Thanks for the info..Linda

02-24-2004, 09:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
BronzeBiz I love Derf!! Join Date: Nov 10 2003 Location: IN Posts: 445 Rep Power: 5	PamTan, I offer minutes to whoever wants to buy them. Most takers are new to tanning. I have had a lot of "older" first time tanners, sufferers of Seasonal depression, arthritis, or just want to get ready for a trip. I suggest that they start with minutes to get up to speed. Some of my elderly customers only want to go for 10 minutes max (in a 20 minute bed) Oh BTW this fits me too... I never go more than 10 minutes... My employees tease me, call me a tanning weany! ha!

03-20-2004, 02:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
MJ Join Date: Jan 21 2002 Posts: 3,060 Rep Power: 8	Randy and Lisa.. I recieved a PM from a fan..and responded ....in short. Don't call me dearest if you don't want me to check your closet for wire hangers. Quote:LaDeDah Posts: 28 From: Plymouth, Maine Posted: 2004-03-17 19:48 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dearest MJ, I am not sure what a distie is, but from the "tone" of your response it appears to me that it was a mean dig. My sympathies to you. I am new here, not a spammer, I dislike SPAM and rude people. I love to assist people and was so excited to find this site; purely by accident I might add. If you happen to start getting SPAM related to Cinnamon Bay, I assure you I had nothing to do with it. Thank you for the extra attention, and again, I am sorry to hear such negativity from someone. I hope things get better for you and you feel better about yourself soon. I am not here to bicker or play immature games. I simply want to clear up your misinformation ~ Pam LaDeDah's Profile \| Reply My original response was deleted..why????? I do not know. The second evil was my response to brat like mods who made the final decision to censor me. I remember to save that one. Quote:I see censorship is still very much alive and well here. WHAT I SAID I HAD EVERY RIGHT TO SAY. Now no need to get your pals to warn me to death Cya! Until the coward that edited me can be seen...and states their reasons....I will not bother to visit here. That was a clean post.... no **, , ****, skrew, *, tramp, , words were used. If words like 'disdain' and 'remedial' are comsidered "bad here. Then, Fhuck you people! In the future I will just reply (if at all) on Tanformation.com where the mods from CesorshipRus.com cannot evil eye my OPINION. Especially when this person called me out to play. You guys can go back to watching grass grow or paint dry. I will post a board free of anal retentive closed minded simpltons in charge of what is said or not said. Does it agree with the banners advertisers? Or will on a board where they cater to whining posters that bring the shiiit on themselves..and can't take it when you smack them back. I am getting really tired of cutting and pasting all my posts into word because certain people think the evil eye is their you play toy. Buh Bye now. PS I saved this post to..I guess censorship is alive and well here even without the brat. :eyeroll: _________________ hereya go mods.... mods evil eye this...... Tight * Jim...KMA and when and if I ever want your opinion..I will tell you what you are supposed to say. Got it?... good!

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