TANNING SALON IN A MALL

cupid65 · 02-18-2004, 06:27 PM

ive managed 2 salons in the past and im considering opening a salon in a mall, there are no other salons within 2 miles. my friend opened her spray tan and spa treatment studio in another mall 2 months ago and she is having great success.I have worked out a lot of the details and wonder what you think of the idea? ive talked with a lot of people who really love the idea..of course there would be many walk ins and i have a small clientel from the salons that ive been involved with before that will follow me. along with mall employee which include a high percentage of older teens and young adults i dont think i can pass on this...any imput would be appreciated

Neon Beach · 02-18-2004, 06:54 PM

If I take our local mall as an example, it is generally full of teenagers and seniors, both of which aren't loaded down with cash. Rent is usually high with common area costs high and many will take a percentage of your revenue on top of that. The more you make the more they take. Then, some malls have the right to dictate your business hours. Make sure you get all the details. Here amll space is about 3 times more per square foot then I pay where I am now. I always thought it would be a great location with the heavy foot traffic, but when you take into account what it costs just to be there and what local tanners are willing to pay for session? It's a gamble..................

cupid65 · 02-18-2004, 08:08 PM

there is a salon across the street that will be selling soon...that would be an option, except i tried to buy it from the guy before he put the salon in the gutter..i dont want it now...i agree with what you are saying..there are a lot of things to consider..im in the planning stages..im in no hurry....im comfortable with the industry..i have no doubts in being able to operate a profitable salon....we own another business and its successful..i want my very own baby

soapking · 02-20-2004, 10:12 AM

Location, location, location. That seems to be the battle cry for most. Personally, I think it is a great idea. I too, have often thought about that prospect..especially if you can get outside/exterior space. It may not be as costly as you may think. Depending where you are, retail space is on the decline, with many major malls losing tennants. This could work to your advantage when negotiating.
I have often toyed with an hi-rise office location, in a major downtown area. There are gyms located in such, hair salons, so why not tanning..
GO for IT!!

cupid65 · 02-20-2004, 11:16 AM

i live in st.pete.fl. and we have the high rises in downtown.we have had a boom in the last 3 years..we have gyms.tanning.spa treatments.etc and now a spa for men only..so many people are moving into downtown apts.and condos..they dont want to always have to leave the area to get what they want so yes..give them what they want..

PeppermintPatty · 03-02-2004, 09:32 PM

Noticed most lager chain salons and video stores are always in strip malls with grocery stores. What is that about? Is that garanteed foot traffic? I have never seen tanning in a mall but there seems to be an increase of the hair day spa type buisness in malls.

sbtanning · 03-05-2004, 11:52 PM

It has been said once a lot of teens with no cash hanging around. Find out how many people want to walk through a mall smelling of the tanning process.

cupid65 · 03-07-2004, 05:38 PM

through much research i am now looking for a free standing building, or possibly a lot that i can build my own salon from the ground up as to not have to ahere to leasing rules and such

MJ · 03-20-2004, 03:01 PM

Randy and Lisa..
I recieved a PM from a fan..and responded ....in short. Don't call me dearest if you don't want me to check your closet for wire hangers.
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I am not sure what a distie is, but from the "tone" of your response it appears to me that it was a mean dig. My sympathies to you. I am new here, not a spammer, I dislike SPAM and rude people. I love to assist people and was so excited to find this site; purely by accident I might add. If you happen to start getting SPAM related to Cinnamon Bay, I assure you I had nothing to do with it. Thank you for the extra attention, and again, I am sorry to hear such negativity from someone. I hope things get better for you and you feel better about yourself soon. I am not here to bicker or play immature games. I simply want to clear up your misinformation ~ Pam

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My original response was deleted..why?????
I do not know. The second evil was my response to brat like mods who made the final decision to censor me.

I remember to save that one.
Quote:I see censorship is still very much alive and well here. WHAT I SAID I HAD EVERY RIGHT TO SAY. Now no need to get your pals to warn me to death Cya! Until the coward that edited me can be seen...and states their reasons....I will not bother to visit here.

That was a clean post.... no ****, ***, *******, skrew, *****, tramp, ****, words were used. If words like 'disdain' and 'remedial' are comsidered "bad here. Then, Fhuck you people! In the future I will just reply (if at all) on Tanformation.com where the mods from CesorshipRus.com cannot evil eye my OPINION. Especially when this person called me out to play.

You guys can go back to watching grass grow or paint dry.
I will post a board free of anal retentive closed minded simpltons in charge of what is said or not said. Does it agree with the banners advertisers? Or will on a board where they cater to whining posters that bring the shiiit on themselves..and can't take it when you smack them back. I am getting really tired of cutting and pasting all my posts into word because certain people think the evil eye is their you play toy.
Buh Bye now.

PS I saved this post to..I guess censorship is alive and well here even without the brat. :eyeroll:

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Neon Beach · 03-21-2004, 05:55 PM

Mall have a lot of possible built-in clientele plus the traffic. I considered it until I did the math and found out what they charge per square foot, plus the common area costs and the revenue fees (a percentage of you revs), not worth it in my area..........

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02-18-2004, 06:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
cupid65 I'm Banned Join Date: Oct 31 2003 Age: 43 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	ive managed 2 salons in the past and im considering opening a salon in a mall, there are no other salons within 2 miles. my friend opened her spray tan and spa treatment studio in another mall 2 months ago and she is having great success.I have worked out a lot of the details and wonder what you think of the idea? ive talked with a lot of people who really love the idea..of course there would be many walk ins and i have a small clientel from the salons that ive been involved with before that will follow me. along with mall employee which include a high percentage of older teens and young adults i dont think i can pass on this...any imput would be appreciated

02-18-2004, 06:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Neon Beach I'm Banned Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 45 Posts: 52,065 Rep Power: 0	If I take our local mall as an example, it is generally full of teenagers and seniors, both of which aren't loaded down with cash. Rent is usually high with common area costs high and many will take a percentage of your revenue on top of that. The more you make the more they take. Then, some malls have the right to dictate your business hours. Make sure you get all the details. Here amll space is about 3 times more per square foot then I pay where I am now. I always thought it would be a great location with the heavy foot traffic, but when you take into account what it costs just to be there and what local tanners are willing to pay for session? It's a gamble..................

02-18-2004, 08:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
cupid65 I'm Banned Join Date: Oct 31 2003 Age: 43 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	there is a salon across the street that will be selling soon...that would be an option, except i tried to buy it from the guy before he put the salon in the gutter..i dont want it now...i agree with what you are saying..there are a lot of things to consider..im in the planning stages..im in no hurry....im comfortable with the industry..i have no doubts in being able to operate a profitable salon....we own another business and its successful..i want my very own baby

02-20-2004, 10:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
soapking Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Mar 7 2003 Posts: 511 Rep Power: 0	Location, location, location. That seems to be the battle cry for most. Personally, I think it is a great idea. I too, have often thought about that prospect..especially if you can get outside/exterior space. It may not be as costly as you may think. Depending where you are, retail space is on the decline, with many major malls losing tennants. This could work to your advantage when negotiating. I have often toyed with an hi-rise office location, in a major downtown area. There are gyms located in such, hair salons, so why not tanning.. GO for IT!!

02-20-2004, 11:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
cupid65 I'm Banned Join Date: Oct 31 2003 Age: 43 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	i live in st.pete.fl. and we have the high rises in downtown.we have had a boom in the last 3 years..we have gyms.tanning.spa treatments.etc and now a spa for men only..so many people are moving into downtown apts.and condos..they dont want to always have to leave the area to get what they want so yes..give them what they want..

03-02-2004, 09:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
PeppermintPatty Join Date: May 5 2003 Location: Marietta Posts: 656 Rep Power: 6	Noticed most lager chain salons and video stores are always in strip malls with grocery stores. What is that about? Is that garanteed foot traffic? I have never seen tanning in a mall but there seems to be an increase of the hair day spa type buisness in malls.

03-05-2004, 11:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
sbtanning Join Date: Dec 2 2003 Posts: 72 Rep Power: 0	It has been said once a lot of teens with no cash hanging around. Find out how many people want to walk through a mall smelling of the tanning process.

03-07-2004, 05:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
cupid65 I'm Banned Join Date: Oct 31 2003 Age: 43 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	through much research i am now looking for a free standing building, or possibly a lot that i can build my own salon from the ground up as to not have to ahere to leasing rules and such

03-20-2004, 03:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
MJ Join Date: Jan 21 2002 Posts: 3,060 Rep Power: 8	Randy and Lisa.. I recieved a PM from a fan..and responded ....in short. Don't call me dearest if you don't want me to check your closet for wire hangers. Quote:LaDeDah Posts: 28 From: Plymouth, Maine Posted: 2004-03-17 19:48 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dearest MJ, I am not sure what a distie is, but from the "tone" of your response it appears to me that it was a mean dig. My sympathies to you. I am new here, not a spammer, I dislike SPAM and rude people. I love to assist people and was so excited to find this site; purely by accident I might add. If you happen to start getting SPAM related to Cinnamon Bay, I assure you I had nothing to do with it. Thank you for the extra attention, and again, I am sorry to hear such negativity from someone. I hope things get better for you and you feel better about yourself soon. I am not here to bicker or play immature games. I simply want to clear up your misinformation ~ Pam LaDeDah's Profile \| Reply My original response was deleted..why????? I do not know. The second evil was my response to brat like mods who made the final decision to censor me. I remember to save that one. Quote:I see censorship is still very much alive and well here. WHAT I SAID I HAD EVERY RIGHT TO SAY. Now no need to get your pals to warn me to death Cya! Until the coward that edited me can be seen...and states their reasons....I will not bother to visit here. That was a clean post.... no **, , ****, skrew, *, tramp, , words were used. If words like 'disdain' and 'remedial' are comsidered "bad here. Then, Fhuck you people! In the future I will just reply (if at all) on Tanformation.com where the mods from CesorshipRus.com cannot evil eye my OPINION. Especially when this person called me out to play. You guys can go back to watching grass grow or paint dry. I will post a board free of anal retentive closed minded simpltons in charge of what is said or not said. Does it agree with the banners advertisers? Or will on a board where they cater to whining posters that bring the shiiit on themselves..and can't take it when you smack them back. I am getting really tired of cutting and pasting all my posts into word because certain people think the evil eye is their you play toy. Buh Bye now. PS I saved this post to..I guess censorship is alive and well here even without the brat. :eyeroll: _________________ hereya go mods.... mods evil eye this...... Tight * Jim...KMA and when and if I ever want your opinion..I will tell you what you are supposed to say. Got it?... good!

03-21-2004, 05:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Neon Beach I'm Banned Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 45 Posts: 52,065 Rep Power: 0	Mall have a lot of possible built-in clientele plus the traffic. I considered it until I did the math and found out what they charge per square foot, plus the common area costs and the revenue fees (a percentage of you revs), not worth it in my area..........

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