NJTANMAN

cant we just all getatan

Neon Beach

As far as a lotion being Tyrosine based..... I'm sitting here with a really skeptical look on face. It was always my understanding (?) that a products most prominent ingredient is considered the "base". Don't tell me I'm wrong again. >>>> NEXT:
I get a real kick out of those people who praise AG lotions. They sell well based on the same principle as dollar stores. Make it cheap, sell it cheap and keep them buying more because its cheap. Volume sales. If you are providing a quality service then back it up with a quality lotions for varying client budgets if not, fill your the shelves with Ag, Swedish Beauty and Caribean Gold and collect your kick backs. With all the choices out there AG lines are definitely not my first choice to offer to my clients.

mouthybrat

John,

L-tyrosine is a man made chemical that replicates the natural tyrosine that our skin naturally produces. The FDA is considering putting L-tyrosine on the list of controlled substances and if they do, then lotion manufacturers will be required to not use it in their lotions.

Lastly, most lotion manufacturers out there now are already removing L-tyrosine from their lotions. Please refer to Deputy Dan's post in this forum titled "Acetyl L-Tyrosine" where he says Quote:Now that we've had a few years of some big brand's tyrosineless products on the market along with the rest, have they worked as well for you?

Lots of people have told me their once favorite products haven't been performing for them as they used to.

Tyrosine is an expensive ingredient, one that drives the cost of manufacturing up quite a bit, but it does seem to be the heart of a true tanning lotion.

Does the fancy packaging sell you anyway or do you still look for the ingredient?

Jason E

I like some AG products just like the other lotion companies products there is not one line of lotion out there that everyone of there products is going to be liked by one individual. So for that AG has good and bad products just like Cal Tan DS,Supre, and on and on.

And No offense Mouthybrat that name fits you for saying your going to sue somebody for debating about a lotion, I know I get mad alot about comments on this board but dont stoop down that low. We should be helping each other out not sueing each other.

PS. I would take that back if I were you because you will never hear the end of it from this site. No threat just trying to help you out.

Jason E

Neon Beach

"Well, the term "based" is normally used in the context
of the main solvent used for the solution. That is, if
the solution is water based then water is the main
solvent used to dissolve the other components into the
solution. A lotion can have many different components
but water is the "base" which keeps them all together.
Otherwise, they would separate out and form their own
different layers in the bottle and you would need to
shake it up before using it in order to mix the whole
thing into a even solution."
The above information comes from my brother with the chemistry degree. As I understand it Tyrosine is not likely to be used as a base which make the "Fact Book" less than factual.

mouthybrat

Quote:Tanning Accelerators
Most tanning accelerators are lotions or pills that contain the amino acid tyrosine. Makers of these products believe that the tyrosine stimulates and increases melanin formation, thereby accelerating the natural tanning process. However, more scientific data is needed to determine the validity of these claims and to assess the safety of using large amounts of tyrosine. This information can be found at this web address:
http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/aa022602a.htm

mouthybrat

Quote:Tanning accelerators -- lotions or pills that usually contain the amino acid tyrosine -- claim that they stimulate and increase melanin formation, thereby accelerating the tanning process. At this time, there is no scientific data available to support these claims.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question639.htm

mouthybrat

A listing of common tanning ingredients for lotions:
http://www.tan-aid.co.uk/glossary.php

Neon Beach

Mouthybrat: any comment on my above posting?????????????? I think that the validity of the "fact book" is now in question, not the use of tyrosine.

mouthybrat

Listen, I am not trying to be a @%#%$ here, I am just pointing out that this WAS at one time what was thought about tyrosine based products. That information has changed as Mr Mattoon pointed out in his reply Quote:As for using a tyrosine based product days prior to tanning... again
from
research offered by lotion firms, the theory was that this allowed the
skin
to absorb the active ingredient through natural slow absorption. Then,
when
the person tanned a few days later, the thought was that the L-Tyrosine
would have had an opportunity to have been absorbed through to the
basement
or basal layer of the epidermis.

Because of the FDA and FTC findings and the changes in active
ingredients
in tanning lotions, you will notice changes in the way accelerators are
discussed in our 2004/2005 Fact Book.

If you would take the time to read the entire post, you would see that.