Buying AG wholesale - Page 12

Darth Vader · 01-23-2004, 09:09 AM

Quote:Jim, I don't want to keep arguing with you. I have been in this industry for over 12 years now and I do have some clue as to what I am saying. I realize that you don't believe that I do, but until you have 12 years under your belt and are a trainer for other tanning salons, GET OFF MY BACK!

I know people who have been in the buisness for several years that know more and are better business people than people who have been in it for 15 years because those who have been in the biz for 15 years have just relived that first year in the biz 15 times. Your posts sound like the later.

NJTANMAN · 01-23-2004, 01:03 PM

wow this thread is rouph

Sheila in Minnesota · 01-23-2004, 04:41 PM

Kiddies ~ what a kc*fen farce this thread has been to read......

Face it - the 'corrections' being made on the issue of L-Tyrosine have nothing to do with REALITY but in the FTC's position to be able to SQUASH CLAIMS... as part of the Anti-Tan Campaigne....

Remember - CLAIMS made by the DERMS about UVR, Sunlight and indoor tanning are not subject to the BIG THUMB of the FTC or the FDA .... They are no more VALID then any other source of information.

California Tan was forced to CHANGE their 'marketing info' for this very same reason years ago.... so Matoon did NOT make a mistake ~ ~ but it is the EASIEST thing for the MFGs to do - remove the CAUSE of complaint.... Get the FTC off their backs....

Right or Wrong does not even enter into this equation.

As far as the AG product lines..... Hello???? They make it VERY CLEAR what line is 'good', 'better', 'best'.... One does not need to be a mental giant to understand the premise....

The BETTER lotions have HIGHER amounts of the ingrediants that do indeed enhance the skin's ability to TAN and RETAIN the tan (I don't give a sh*t what the FTC wants to say about it either)... Usually - the cost of the lotion reflects the cost of the ingrediants and the results you can get.....

The AG lower end stuff is available in Florida Retail outlets - Just like California Tan is available in Resort Areas where people vacation ...... They were selling Matahari at the MGM in Vegas ~ not that they had a CLUE as to what it was.... just that they were told they had to display it....

So the moral of the story Kiddies ~ is that YOUR LAMPS are supposed to TAN the body ... the lotions are supposed to ENHANCE the process - assist it to happen faster, and condition the skin in a way that allows the client to be HAPPY with their results.....

You don't need to be a freeking scientist to understand good results or lack of em.

mouthybrat · 01-23-2004, 05:54 PM

Sheila, I absolutly love the way you make a good point!!!!!

As for Darth and your comments, what the heck are you saying, because it seems like gibberish to me!

Neon Beach · 01-24-2004, 06:42 AM

I think Darth is saying just because someone has been doing something for a long time doesn't mean they are any darn good at it, especially if they didn't learn to do it properly in the beginning. So, if you started with mistakes 15 years ago and no one corrected you, you would now have 15 years experience of doing it wrong.

mouthybrat · 01-24-2004, 05:06 PM

That's funny, if I am doing it all wrong how would I have an average increase in sales each year of over 25%?

NJTANMAN · 01-24-2004, 11:23 PM

Sheila I have to agree with you on this one ..

Neon Beach · 01-26-2004, 08:43 AM

Maybe because people rely on you to educate them and if they don't know any better you could tell them the sky is red and Tom Green is funny and they'd believe you, I don't know?

sun_goddess · 02-08-2004, 05:33 PM

AG isn't crap. I think you may find with any lotion brand some are great and some not so much. Ever tried Max lotion or gel from California Tan?? I made my point clear then. BUT please do not forget that the same people who make AG also make Swedish beauty,and the Attitude lines?? YOu can find AG, Swedish Beauty, and Attitude by calling UVALUX. They are the ONLY distributor I believe. And they're doing great so I would really fight to the death that their products ARE NOT CRAP! Especially because I use them myself. Try www.uvalux.com or 1-800-661-6292.
i think there are a few people on here that either haven't used their products or have used something that just didn't work for them personally.

Neon Beach · 02-08-2004, 05:42 PM

All of Ag's brands of lotions can be found from almost any distributor. They aren't hard to find, just hard to lose. I stick my earlier comments in that they are low end, discount-like lotion that are made cheaply so they can be sold cheaply and the profits roll in from volume sales. But if you wanna sell you go right ahead.

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01-23-2004, 09:09 AM	#111 (permalink)
Darth Vader Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Aug 10 2001 Posts: 59 Rep Power: 0	Quote:Jim, I don't want to keep arguing with you. I have been in this industry for over 12 years now and I do have some clue as to what I am saying. I realize that you don't believe that I do, but until you have 12 years under your belt and are a trainer for other tanning salons, GET OFF MY BACK! I know people who have been in the buisness for several years that know more and are better business people than people who have been in it for 15 years because those who have been in the biz for 15 years have just relived that first year in the biz 15 times. Your posts sound like the later.

01-23-2004, 01:03 PM	#112 (permalink)
NJTANMAN Join Date: Jan 6 2004 Posts: 488 Rep Power: 5	wow this thread is rouph

01-23-2004, 04:41 PM	#113 (permalink)
Sheila in Minnesota Join Date: Jan 3 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,805 Rep Power: 7	Kiddies ~ what a kcfen farce this thread has been to read...... Face it - the 'corrections' being made on the issue of L-Tyrosine have nothing to do with REALITY but in the FTC's position to be able to SQUASH CLAIMS... as part of the Anti-Tan Campaigne.... Remember - CLAIMS made by the DERMS about UVR, Sunlight and indoor tanning are not subject to the BIG THUMB of the FTC or the FDA .... They are no more VALID then any other source of information. California Tan was forced to CHANGE their 'marketing info' for this very same reason years ago.... so Matoon did NOT make a mistake ~ ~ but it is the EASIEST thing for the MFGs to do - remove the CAUSE of complaint.... Get the FTC off their backs.... Right or Wrong does not even enter into this equation. As far as the AG product lines..... Hello???? They make it VERY CLEAR what line is 'good', 'better', 'best'.... One does not need to be a mental giant to understand the premise.... The BETTER lotions have HIGHER amounts of the ingrediants that do indeed enhance the skin's ability to TAN and RETAIN the tan (I don't give a sht what the FTC wants to say about it either)... Usually - the cost of the lotion reflects the cost of the ingrediants and the results you can get..... The AG lower end stuff is available in Florida Retail outlets - Just like California Tan is available in Resort Areas where people vacation ...... They were selling Matahari at the MGM in Vegas ~ not that they had a CLUE as to what it was.... just that they were told they had to display it.... So the moral of the story Kiddies ~ is that YOUR LAMPS are supposed to TAN the body ... the lotions are supposed to ENHANCE the process - assist it to happen faster, and condition the skin in a way that allows the client to be HAPPY with their results..... You don't need to be a freeking scientist to understand good results or lack of em.

01-23-2004, 05:54 PM	#114 (permalink)
mouthybrat Join Date: Nov 9 2003 Posts: 752 Rep Power: 5	Sheila, I absolutly love the way you make a good point!!!!! As for Darth and your comments, what the heck are you saying, because it seems like gibberish to me!

01-24-2004, 06:42 AM	#115 (permalink)
Neon Beach I'm Banned Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 45 Posts: 52,065 Rep Power: 0	I think Darth is saying just because someone has been doing something for a long time doesn't mean they are any darn good at it, especially if they didn't learn to do it properly in the beginning. So, if you started with mistakes 15 years ago and no one corrected you, you would now have 15 years experience of doing it wrong.

01-24-2004, 05:06 PM	#116 (permalink)
mouthybrat Join Date: Nov 9 2003 Posts: 752 Rep Power: 5	That's funny, if I am doing it all wrong how would I have an average increase in sales each year of over 25%?

01-24-2004, 11:23 PM	#117 (permalink)
NJTANMAN Join Date: Jan 6 2004 Posts: 488 Rep Power: 5	Sheila I have to agree with you on this one ..

01-26-2004, 08:43 AM	#118 (permalink)
Neon Beach I'm Banned Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 45 Posts: 52,065 Rep Power: 0	Maybe because people rely on you to educate them and if they don't know any better you could tell them the sky is red and Tom Green is funny and they'd believe you, I don't know?

02-08-2004, 05:33 PM	#119 (permalink)
sun_goddess Join Date: Feb 8 2004 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	AG isn't crap. I think you may find with any lotion brand some are great and some not so much. Ever tried Max lotion or gel from California Tan?? I made my point clear then. BUT please do not forget that the same people who make AG also make Swedish beauty,and the Attitude lines?? YOu can find AG, Swedish Beauty, and Attitude by calling UVALUX. They are the ONLY distributor I believe. And they're doing great so I would really fight to the death that their products ARE NOT CRAP! Especially because I use them myself. Try www.uvalux.com or 1-800-661-6292. i think there are a few people on here that either haven't used their products or have used something that just didn't work for them personally.

02-08-2004, 05:42 PM	#120 (permalink)
Neon Beach I'm Banned Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 45 Posts: 52,065 Rep Power: 0	All of Ag's brands of lotions can be found from almost any distributor. They aren't hard to find, just hard to lose. I stick my earlier comments in that they are low end, discount-like lotion that are made cheaply so they can be sold cheaply and the profits roll in from volume sales. But if you wanna sell you go right ahead.

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