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Old 05-17-2013, 09:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Question Legs look orange! Any advise?

I did a spray tan and two days later that girls legs look orange... She exfoliated well and I used South Seas Tahitian solution . I did a light first coat and then followed it up with a very light 2nd coat. She has been using J&J baby lotion (pink bottle) twice a day since getting her tan. I also sprayed two other girls at the same appointment and they are not orange at all. I'm lost as to what may have gone wrong.... Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Re: Legs look orange! Any advise?

Her skin may be too fair for 2 coats or even 1. I use to use South Seas but stopped because of this reason; it wasn't compatible with the very fair clients. What is her skin type?

Also, doesn't J & J baby lotion contain baby oil? That's no good for sunless tans.... If you don't retail a lotion for sunless upkeep and want to be able to recommend an OTC lotion, I would suggest Aveno.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Re: Legs look orange! Any advise?

I've had quite a few fair clients and no problems so far. She is a type 1 diabetic so I was wondering if maybe that affected it? She takes insulin daily. She had a little bit of a natural tan (very light) already and I did a client the next day (same solution and method) that was very fair and red hair and no problems whatsoever!!! I'm so confused! I get more comments from clients that want to go darker than what south seas solutions can. I usually have them use the 2hr Fiji express solution and then leave it on for 4-5 hours. It seems to do the trick. What solution do you use? I'm mobile so I like not having to tote around lots of different solutions and a ph balancer. Btw, that's for the response!
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Re: Legs look orange! Any advise?

Hmmm, if your other fair skinned clients didn't turn orange then my next thought would be that's it's something going on with her specifically. Could be her legs are a little drier then the rest of her skin so it's soaking up more of the solution (??). The insulin/diabetes could possibly have something to do with it too. I've never heard a correlation be made between the two but whenever someone is on meds it can alter a lot of things, hair, skin, nails, etc., so that's very possible! I would try calling South Seas and see what they say. I still carry their retail line, because it's awesome!, and offer a "dance tan" which I use their solution for, so I've have dealt with them many times, fantastic customer service, super nice and friendly!

There are DHA booster drops available that you could add in to make the solution darker, however I don't know if using drops from a brand that's different then your solution would have a negative affect or not, but it's something you could try!

I use Sjoile for my main solution . I love it, my clients love it, it's great! It's more of a brown tan then South Seas. To me, south seas gives a more golden color tan. It comes in 4 levels and also has booster drops available too if you don't want to mix solutions. I mix, so I've never tried the drops. That's another reason I switched my main solution to Sjolie, I don't like the "one size fits all" solutions. Clients love that you can customize their solution specifically for them! Are you using a PH balancer? That's important too, in my opinion :)
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Great info! I agree that South Seas has a golden tone. I may call them and see what they say, they do have wonderful customer service! Not so easy to find in our industry. I may look into getting a sample of the sjoile solution that you use. I'd be afraid to mix booster drops and solution from two different companies, especially if they used different base colors, that could be bad! Lol
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I'd def sample Sjolie, they have great customer service as well! And I agree that's hard to find with sunless companies! JamaicaMeTan gives a nice brown tan as well, but it's prescented coconut and I spray men as well whom are not really into girly scents lol. good luck!
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Re: Legs look orange! Any advise?

I know you don't need to ph with south seas, but maybe might try that, or go with sjolie 9 and see what kind of color that gives her, just because it is a little lighter solution . That is my go to if other colors seem to be too orange. ( my legs seem to look orange in almost any solution ) I would start with a 9 and then if it is not dark enough add some dha drops next time. :)
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You should try the AmbeR sUN BY Norvell. Never have any disappointment. Ant their new solution Venetian is even better blue and purple undertones to counteract orange. Really pretty outcome and they have samples.
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Re: Legs look orange! Any advise?

I believe South Seas uses a 9% DHA.....not good for very fair skin people. Back in the days I've tried South Seas and saw an orange tint to it so I stopped using it. On my very fair skin clients I use a 5% DHA, on fair skin I use a 7 or 8%. Never had a complaint from any of my clients.
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Re: Legs look orange! Any advise?

I know this is an older post, but this is a question almost everyone asks!

DHA is powerful: it tans skin very easily. Because of this, the level of DHA needs to be perfectly balanced by the rest of the ingredients in the mixture so that your skin doesn’t become super-saturated and turn orange. It’s like Goldilocks and the Three Bears: too little and you don’t get tanned, too much and you’re turned into an orange monster. It’s finding that “just right” balance that is a struggle.

Easily burnt, easily tanned.

There is a set of guidelines that Estheticians use for determining how easily skin burns in sunlight, this is called the Fitzpatrick Scale. The Fitzpatrick Scale contains a checklist that you can follow to easily determine which skin type your client has. Some questions include:

--Does your client have light hair or freckles?

--Is your client able to achieve a tan, or simply burn and then instantly begin peeling?

--If your client can tan, how easily do they burn?

Because DHA reacts with the skin in much the same way that the sun does, this scale can be used when determining how much, and what type, of tanning solution to use. The easier a person burns, the easier that person will tan (which also means the easier they will turn orange if you aren’t careful!).

Important: Even if you are using the best solution on the market, you can still turn someone orange if you are using the wrong product for their skin type.

Generally speaking, people whose skin is fairer will require a formula that contains less DHA (and oppositely those with darker skin will usually require a more highly concentrated formula). Everyone’s skin is different and it’s important to note that there are exceptions to this rule.
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