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Old 10-17-2009, 06:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Re: Yet another mystic vs versaspa post

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There is no more problems with the solution . The only problem is when you try to buy a cheap replacement. These units are calibrated for the Versaspa solution. When used correctly its the best on the market. The new My mist added a blower and heater. Versaspa already had this. You still have to use the cartridges with My mist. When you compare the cost for the salon owner and the ease to use Versaspa over the MyMist then you'll go with the Versaspa
COMPLETE BS!!! Any machine, automated or hand held can spray any solution as long as the viscosity is correct.

You my friend have been brainwashed or get a commission, one or the other.

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The new Mystic HD is not the same crap different color. On the contrary, it's different crap same color: HD stands for "Heat Dry". It dry's the client with warm air. It also preheats the solution so it's not a cold spray, but a warm spray. The solution itself is no different.
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Re: Yet another mystic vs versaspa post

"as long as the viscosity is correct."

see, that's the idea behind NOT using brand X in the machine. Who knows if it is or not. If it's not being designed specifically for the machine then there is no reason for it to be the correct viscosity.
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Old 10-18-2009, 03:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
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A busy salon will not save 8K on solutiuon when Magic charges $100.00 per GALLON and you can find solution that is just as good or better for half the price. Big chains got a screaming deal from Magic when they got rid of their Mystic that in many cases were 3-6 years old. If I sprayed a client with the Blue Box and sprayed another client with the Versa Spa...same jiuice, you could not tell the difference the next day!
A busy salon will absolutely save 8k plus with a versaspa and their $100 per gallon solution over using a mymyst booth and the cartridges. Regardless of which machine you think is better, that is a fact. If you just sprayed 4000 people in a year on both units how much would you save with a versaspa? And yes there are salons spraying well over 4,000 people a year.

Not sure what you call a screaming deal, but you would be surprised at how little of a discount the big chains get on versaspa units.
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Old 10-18-2009, 11:49 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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Can we qualify the $8k? That's a big number that can't be ignored and I'm not a versa expert.

My understanding is that you can get a standard versa spray and you can also add a percentage higher(say 20% more) that could be an add-on or upgrade.

If the standard spray uses less solution as compared to a standard mymyst cartridge(I'm speculating here), wouldn't that be the revenue difference?

Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that charging a price that's according to the solution amount be the answer to the difference? Now it boils down to quality and choices.

You also have the Mystic SkinSpa treatments like the Alpha-Hydroxy that I don't believe the Versa uses. Additional revenue potentially not accounted for.

I've tanned in both systems and feel the Mystic Mymyst delivers a higher quality tan vs the VersaSpa. I do like the open aspect of Versa but that doesn't seem to hurt the decision to choose Mystic. The end result(quality of tan) and choices available seem to be the most important factors in a customers mind. Especially if explained properly.

I'm curious as to your thoughts on this from a pure business perspective. If I was buying new today I'm not sure which direction I would go, they both have pro's and con's.

BTW, anyone know what their long term plans are? I highly doubt they are going to continue with two competing units. I would assume they are going to go that route for a period and take the best of both to have one good unit. A competitor needs to come along or prices will get out of hand quickly.

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Old 10-19-2009, 02:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Yet another mystic vs versaspa post

I've been to mystic and versaspa booths...they both suck. The last time I went, I just got sprayed in the face. A red face doesn't go well with a white body. That's what all my client say too. Booths suck.
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You get about 55 sprays out of a $100. box of versaspa solution . (that is taking into consideration all 3 levels so if you sprayed more on level 3 you may get a few less, if you spray more on level 1 you get a few more)

So that is $1.80 per spray. Last time I looked at mymyst cartridge price is was $3.50 so that is $1.70 more per session. (almost double). Spray 4000 people a year, with price per session being the same thats $6,800 less in solution cost.

That 8k number i think was based on a little under 5k sprays per year, which is what the top salons shoot for. There are salons I know spraying allot more than that.

That number assumes mymyst and versaspa session being identical costs and is only the savings on solution . Both units have their different upgrades they can charge for so none of that is factored in. What machine has the potential to bring in higher session prices and upgrade fees is an entirely different discussion and both have their diffferent revenue potentials.

As of right now they have every intention of keeping both brands seperate.

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Thanks bjhcpa, that is helpful. We do pay quite a bit less for the cartridge than you listed but I do see how this could work.
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Tanningdude59 could not have said it any better....ALL THE WAY AROUND!
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Mystic All The Way,

These machines are EXTREMELY durable when taken care of, cleaned out properly etc they will last a very very very long time. The myst that mystic tan sells, (go for the premium option, which is the only big drum option these days) gives a great result all the time. Customers always get the colour they want (just dont put them in for dark their first time until you see how their skin takes spray tans ) and voila, perfect. The clear has no bronzer streak marks.

There is a versa spa in my city, and I have heard nothing but bad things from customers, streaks, weird colour, bronzer rubbing off, streaking, turning orange. I tried it once myself and had big streaks on the inside of my hips, under bust, and it came off on everything. I do not recommend it at all!!!

Also, you get more then 100 sprays out of a mystic drum. If your going to spend the big bucks for the big machine, not the hand held applied option, the cost per mist is par with versa.

SUNID - also if you were in a mystic booth, you dont have the option of getting just your face sprayed. So that statement does not apply to the large spray booths mystic sells.
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