tannaked

I have searched the sunless forum and haven't a clue as to what I need to do. So, any helpful advice is greatly appreciated!

I use Norvell Regular & Dark solution for my HVLP system. I have several tanners who are very very dark and the Norvell Dark just doesn't cut it. I don't want to coat it on thick as the skin will only absorb so much of the solution anyways. I would like to try drops that will increase their results, but that are not just a topical bronzer.

1. Does any one have any suggestions?
2. Where do I get them?
3. How do I mix them in and should I mix them in the Dark or Regular solution?
4. Do I charge extra for this (especially for storage since I dont have that many w/this dark of skin)?

Thanks for your help!

spraytannedjenn

I would use it in the Dark not the Medium. The reason for this is because it will have a higher amount of Eurithlose in it (to counter act the orange that DHA can sometimes give) I would go very lightly meaning 1-2 drops per 2 oz . ANy more than that you will have client looking like Umpa Lupas. The skin can only take in so much dha before it rebels and turns orange. I would mix it as needed. At most I might mix up about 8 oz for the clients write thier name on it and make a really big deal about thier "Special Blend" As for charging more for it, most likely I would unless the are a wonderful regular customer.

Shawnalyn

I heard that too Jenn. When you add the drops you need the euthyrlose. That's is why some don't suggest adding additional DHA to the solution because it throws the euthryrlose/dha balance off.

spraytannedjenn

a little would be ok but more than 1-2 drop per 2 oz will have gross results

spraytannedjenn

something else I might suggest is if the company you get your solution from has a higher dha solution try that. say they have a 5% and a 9% buy both and mix the 2 to get a 7%. I would also ask the salesman you get your solution from how many drops they suggest. Listen to them they really should know what they are talking about.

Woodlands

I'm interested in this too. Norvell is 6% and since a boatload came with the purchase of the machine, I have a lot of it ;) I've ordered some sample 10 and 12% (full solutions, not drops) from a different company that I'm going to try but I'd like to be able to alter the Norvell if at all possible.

Does anyone know the ratio of what 1-2 drops of pure DHA does to a 2 oz solution , i.e. if it's 6% and I add 1 drop per 2 oz, what does that make it? And how much euthyrlose to add to this drop and where would I purchase it?

I really think that once I get the spray tanning figured out it's going to be a big seller. I am the only salon in both locations that offers it. My employee at salon 1 (the only one I legally own now) was trained with me - and actually is the one who sprayed me, lol - and I'm offering her $5 per spray tan she performs since I won't always be there.

Shawnalyn

To my knowledge, I don't think there are erythrulose drops. It would make sense that they would come together in drop form, wouldn't it? I just heard from my rep that one two drops of dha won't hurt the solution , as long as everything is ph balanced (including the drops). Just don't overdo it or the result will have a orange cast to it. I just ordered drops this evening, that is why I am so enlightened all of the sudden;) We will see!

Woodlands

Is there a list of ingredients on the drops, i.e. does it have DHA and erythrulose? If so, then that could be the answer to everything (well, not world peace, but at least the DHA drop dilemma ;) )

Edited to add - if there is erythrulose in them, where did you purchase them?

Thanks :)

Shawnalyn

It is just DHA in the drops and to my knowledge the two together in drop form doesn't exist. I was just saying it would make sense wouldn't it? Here is little info on erythrulose...
"In one study, volunteers treated with a DHA/Erythrulose solution were copmared to others treated with the DHA solution alone. Erythrulose in combination with DHA produced a more even and longer lasting tan without the undesired streaks. The skin treated with the combination solution was 30% less dry than those treated with DHA alone. The maximal tanning intensity was reached with the Erythrulose after 4-6 days and with DHA after 2 days. Due to this slower reaction and to its more uniform distribution in the outer skin, Erythrulose is believed to to be responsible for a more uniform, even, and longer lasting tan.

In summary, Erythrulose in combination with DHA may produce a deep, uniform and natural skin tan without undesired streaks. Thanks to its retardation effect, Erythrulose prolongs the tan and leaves the skin less dry."

I am sure there is some sort of reason why they are not in drop form together, but wouldn't that be something if they were!

Woodlands

I guess this is their way of making sure they sell all the different %'s of whole solution instead of the DHA drops ;)