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Old 06-25-2008, 11:30 AM   #31 (permalink)
 
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Ok Unity, where are your degrees from and what are they in? No offense, but someone with a Southpark character as their Icon doesn't seem like the most credible source for information. I am more apt to listen to Eileen bc she looks professional and like she has some sense. By the way, I have been trying to upload a pic myself, but no matter how small I shrink them they are never small enough for tantalk and if I shrink em much more there won't be a picture :( I think all the pics I have are with a camera w lots of megapixels.
I really didn't mean to come off as bragging about my intellegence, I have just always liked to learn. I felt a need to list my achievements considering the dis by Unity about free radicals. I never was good at sports or music but gosh darn it I got to give a graduation speech! LOL Anywho, any of you anti-oxidant junkies tried something called XANGO juice? I've been on it for about a year and LOVE LOVE LOVE it! I don't sell it, I promise. If you are into anti-oxidants you should try it- it has more xanthones than anything else you can buy!
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:45 AM   #32 (permalink)
 
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Eileen,
To answer your question about African American women...
I asked my friend in med school what they would tell them to do in that situation and CURRENTLY this is what they suggest:

[i]Objective: The objective was to determine the response of serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D [25(OH)D] to oral vitamin D3 supplementation in an African American population.

Design: Healthy black postmenopausal women (n = 208) participated in a vitamin D3 supplementation trial for a period of 3 y. Analyses were done in the vitamin D supplementation arm (n = 104) to quantify the response in serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentrations at a steady state vitamin D input. The participants received 20 µg/d (800 IU) oral vitamin D3 for the initial 2 y and 50 µg/d (2000 IU) for the third year.

Results: Supplementation with 20 µg/d (800 IU/d) vitamin D3 raised the mean serum 25(OH)D concentration from a baseline of 46.9 ± 20.6 nmol/L to 71.4 ± 21.5 nmol/L at 3 mo. The mean (±SD) concentration of serum 25(OH)D was 87.3 ± 27.0 nmol/L 3 mo after supplementation increased to 50 µg/d (2000 IU/d). All participants achieved a serum 25(OH)D concentration >35 nmol/L, 95% achieved a concentration >50 nmol/L, but only 60% achieved a concentration >75 nmol/L. All patients had concentrations <153 nmol/L. On the basis of our findings, an algorithm for prescribing vitamin D so that patients reach optimal serum concentrations was developed. The algorithm suggests a dose of 70 µg (2800 IU/d) for those with a concentration >45 nmol/L and a dose of 100 µg (4000 IU/d) for those with a concentration <45 nmol/L.

Conclusions: Supplementation with 50 µg/d (2000 IU/d) oral vitamin D3 is sufficient to raise serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentrations to >50 nmol/L in almost all postmenopausal African American women. However, higher doses were needed to achieve concentrations >75 nmol/L in many women in this population.

That is what they recommend. My friend says that they only very rarely recommend tanning lamps for any kind of treatment bc there are so many more harmful effects (according to her and what they teach in med school). She said so far everyone she has done rotations for has felt that way and they preach moderation, not burning, staying in the shade, staying out of the sun during the hottest parts of the day, never going to tanning beds, and of course eating a balanced diet.

Please keep in mind I just wanted to answer Eileen's question, I haven't personally conducted mass studies and this is just what someone currently in med school had to say about what they teach at this point in time. If you have conducted your own clinical research to prove otherwise then by all means march your butt to Washington to get the curriculum changed!
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Re: New Concept here... airbrush tanning

Simple. We started BLACK and as humans migrated north and south of the equator our skin lightened to allow MORE sun coverage.

As in YOUR SKIN IS GASPING FOR SUNLIGHT if it's pale.

To say otherwise means you don't know what you are talking about.
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The problem with skin cancer is that the number is INFLATED and OVERdiagnosed cause they group in skin warts and other abnormalities that one would grow ANYWAY just having a life span of 80years+.

Even with the over inflated numbers the mortality rate is so low that it falls in with dying from a lightening strike or tripping over one's shoelace and drowning in a puddle of water.

As in YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME WORRYING ABOUT NONSENSE OR TO SELL A COSMETIC ALTERNATIVE VIA SCARE MARKETING.

Either way it has NOTHING to do with someone's well being.

Also, spray tanning can cause "skin cancer" just like walking outside in the polluted environment. Anything that clogs a skin pore and is left to abscess can eventually become some sort of skin cancer.
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Ok Unity, where are your degrees from and what are they in? No offense, but someone with a Southpark character as their Icon doesn't seem like the most credible source for information. I am more apt to listen to Eileen bc she looks professional and like she has some sense. By the way, I have been trying to upload a pic myself, but no matter how small I shrink them they are never small enough for tantalk and if I shrink em much more there won't be a picture :( I think all the pics I have are with a camera w lots of megapixels.
I really didn't mean to come off as bragging about my intellegence, I have just always liked to learn. I felt a need to list my achievements considering the dis by Unity about free radicals. I never was good at sports or music but gosh darn it I got to give a graduation speech! LOL Anywho, any of you anti-oxidant junkies tried something called XANGO juice? I've been on it for about a year and LOVE LOVE LOVE it! I don't sell it, I promise. If you are into anti-oxidants you should try it- it has more xanthones than anything else you can buy!
So your profiling me based on an avatar? Thats sad, really. And I am sorry, but this is not a ******* match. For someone as "educated" as yourself you should be able to figure out image resolution. It has nothing to do with your camera and all with how you post-process the image. You need to take into a "paint" program and drop the resolution to 72 dpi and then play with the size.

I heard of XANGO juice but prefer cranberry, blueberry and pomegranate juices/blends.
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Actually genius it does have to do with your megapixels. If your camera has a lot, paint will only allow it to go down so far, then you have to have more in-depth software to edit it further
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Actually genius it does have to do with your megapixels. If your camera has a lot, paint will only allow it to go down so far, then you have to have more in-depth software to edit it further
As a digital photographer, you have now idea how hard I am laughing right now at that statement.
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seriously, my paint program won't let me do that. I noticed this problem first about 6 months ago and my senior systems computer engineer husband told me the same thing-so i told him to try it for himself then-and he couldn't get it to work on my computer either but could on his. I can shrink images that are already kinda small from my moms camera, it is just a normal cyber shot with 4megapixels i think. but ours has 12.40 and it won't let you do it with those pix or with our professional wedding pics!? If I need them resized I always have to use my hubbys computer, i had a free trial of another photo editor software for a while that would let me -we have no idea y my paint wont let you do that but if you have any ideas id be willing to try
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Here, try these:

http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pix...eephotoedw.htm

I heard that Paint.net was really nice, almost on par with Photoshop (which is a pro app). These are free apps, so if you dont like them you are not out anything.
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Unity...I would be willing to bet I know more about free radicals than you since I wrote my thesis for my PHD on that and Eicosanoids (if you want to know much about those you will have to go to a UNIVERSITY library, there isn't a whole lot on the net about them and they aren't in most dictionaries).
"Results 1 - 10 of about 507,000 English pages for Eicosanoids" in Google

Honestly, waving your "intelligence" around like some sort of penis size contest is getting a little old.

If you'd like, I'll get my brother who is doing his post doctorate work (which is what you do after you have a doctorate, so yes, he has a PhD) at Duke in genetics to write up some fancy info about wrinkles, skin cancer, sun, genetics and heredity if that would keep you quiet, but somehow, I don't think even he could convince you.
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