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Old 06-24-2008, 02:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Re: New Concept here... airbrush tanning

SPF doesn't prevent wrinkles my friend. Also, it contains ingredients that are known carcinogens and ingredients that don't absorb which leads to skin problems like acne, etc.

How is that good again?
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Re: questions for aloharedhots

I have many questions for your family health professionals. My first scenario is I'm an african american female of 60 years old and I'm about 185 lbs at 5' 5". How does your Dr.'s answer to me help me during the summer when I have a fulltime job and during the winter months from
September until May until the sun comes out again?

I'm picturing myself going outside now and stripping down to a tank and shorts with my sunscreen where you suggested and I'm freezing at the same time (it's January 15th) people are laughing at me.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Wow. That was the weirdest thing I read.

"Even people with depression can use full spectrum lights without the harmful rays."

Thats like two wrongs in one. Vitamin D is the link on the depression. And harmful rays? Well if they are doing it for light therapy the rays would not be harmful unless then over-dose big time, i.e. BURN.
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Old 06-24-2008, 06:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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Re: New Concept here... airbrush tanning

Ok well you don't use any SPF then and I will and when you are 40 going on 65 I'll send you a postcard of me and my 20 year old boyfriend basking in the sun with our sunscreen on the beaches of St Tropez!
I'll use the money I saved from not having to get Botox injections :)
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Re: New Concept here... airbrush tanning

Wrinkles (like stretch marks) have a lot to do with heredity. I have been sitting out in the sun since I was an infant - and back then SPF wasn't a buzz word. I think there was Coppertone and Sea and Ski but mostly you used Solarcaine after you fried yourself the first few times out.

I went through the 70s where we used Crisco (yep, Crisco), baby oil and iodine, and anything else that would turn us brown.

I've grown up in the south and some summers have spent literally every single day on the beach.

I've been using tanning salons for about 5 years but even still spend time at the beach (2 vacations so far this year) and the pool (just today, in fact). I'm 46 and 99 times out of 100, people think I'm in my 30's.

And gravity isn't caused by sun at all, so you're going to have to find a "cure" for that while you're slathering all that SPF on ya ;) No way you're going to have a tight 20 year old body to impress the 20 year old boys with w/o getting some work done. While I'm at the plastic surgeon getting my boob lift at 65, I might get my face done too ;)
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Old 06-24-2008, 06:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: New Concept here... airbrush tanning

Almost ALL sunblock ONLY blocks UVB. Guess what, UVA is the primary aging "death ray" ya speak of.

I cant believe people still put cancer causing agents on their skin. Especially since I became involved here and did a ton of research to make sure I was not being fed fooder.
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Re: New Concept here... airbrush tanning

True about UVA-that's why I wear sunglasses, a wide-brimmed hat and sit under an umbrella :)

I have read both sides of the whole sun is good/sun is bad debate, but my stance comes from PERSONAL RESEARCH and EXPERIENCE.

I make it a point to ask all medical professionals I run into about their views on the sun, I have yet to meet one who said NOT to wear SPF and to lay in tannig beds! I know there are some publications with docs saying its ok, but I wonder who is funding their studies?!

I have grown up in Alabama and Florida all of my life, and lucky for me when I was younger I HATED getting hot and sweaty outdoors so my laying out was at a minimum. Some of my friends would actually climb on the roof of their houses to lay out on a black surface (or on a trampoline) and coat themselves w Afro Sheen or Baby Oil! Those same friends that I have termed "tanorexics" also kept up their tanning in the winter via tanning bed. My mom wouldn't let me get in bc she is a nurse and worked in Cali on a special study involving the first generation of tanning bedders that were getting into middle-age and had a spike in the % of melanoma than the generations prior to them did. I tried to warn my friends...now that we are getting into our mid-late 20s they all look well over 30 (poor things) and several (the ones who laid in tanning beds daily) have already had pre-cancerous tumors cut off all over their bodies! ICK! Me and the few other gals who chose not to cook ourselves religiously (I am guilty of pre-prom tanning) get carded and mistaken for much younger ALL THE TIME! All the bakers are like man we shoulda listend to yall!

PS I was totally joking about the 20 yr old guy, I am actually happily married to someone almost 20 yrs my senior...he wears his sunscreen too ;)
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Re: New Concept here... airbrush tanning

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PS what about organic and natural sunscreens? DO they still cause cancer?
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Re: New Concept here... airbrush tanning

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PS what about organic and natural sunscreens? DO they still cause cancer?
"Most chemical sunscreens contain from 2 to 5% of benzophenone or its derivatives (oxybenzone, benzophenone-3) as their active ingredient. Benzophenone is one of the most powerful free radical generators known to man."

You sounds smart enough to know what a free radical is and what it does.

I suggest you read a real study.

http://www.vvv.com/healthnews/dsunscre.html
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Re: New Concept here... airbrush tanning

This is what I believe based on what I have read.

uv rays are good for you ..your body needs it.

traditional "chemical" sunscreens are full of nasty chemicals and perservatives that are known carcinogens and are known to create free radicals which cause wrinkles...especially when heated.

i have worn traditional sunscreen my whole life. I have also used facial moisturizers and makeup that contained sunscreen for half my life ( I am 30 yo). Last year I had a basal cell skin cancer removed from my face. I've had a lot of sunscreen on my face from different sources. Why at 29 years old should I have skin cancer on my face?

the rate of skin cancer has gone up globally but so has the rate of sunsreen use.

do not trust that just because the fda and traditional medicine tells you something that it is true.

i now use sunscreens with no chemicals, only zinc and titanium dioxide. To be honest, they kind of suck. They are not water proof and you have to really rub them in. But, I believe they are the way to go for me and my skin type.

i now use facial cleansers, moisturizers and makeup without chemical spf.
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