08-24-2006, 04:32 PM | #11 (permalink) |
Join Date: Oct 26 2004 Location: Florida
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Rep Power: 21 | Re: Help with Spray onvs Airbrushing Smaller booths only need a 6 X 7 room. If you are going to do air brushing, make sure you have a good exhaust system or you will have the DHA all over the salon. Mystic and Magic booths require a standard room. Celebrity Tan, Sun Shower and Sun Spritz are smaller units. Consider the time you will be spending doing the air brushing. Booths do the job for you. Clean-up is another consideration. Some things said above are incorrect. Booths do not use more solution , and the results are just as good as air brushing. Air brushing requires a drying time. Booths don't. If time is money, then you have to look into every booth and the advantages of each or go air brushing. |
08-25-2006, 12:17 AM | #12 (permalink) |
Join Date: Aug 24 2006 Location: Madison, Wisconsin
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Help with Spray onvs Airbrushing I have done a lot of clients who have been to the booths and are absolutely disgusted with it when they are done. It's a messy, streaky tan that looks horrible. No one is there to give the personal touches and the biggest gripe I hear is how they all feel "fogged" while standing in the booth. I've also heard a lot about how impersonal it is and when they finally did find someone who worked at the salon to help, she/he was clueless, not to mention they had no knowledge whatsoever about dha levels. I'd definitely go with the airbrush artist. |
08-25-2006, 08:23 AM | #13 (permalink) | |
Join Date: May 23 2006 Location: Appleton
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Clean up and time to spray, I agree is a huge difference. Though with the correct over spray booth the clean up can be kept down to about a two minute job. A good spray tech. using HVLP will have no problem getting people in and out in about 20 min. from the moment they walk in for there appointments to the time they leave. Plus the "hands on approach" will build much better customer relations, which will bring many people back. I know at one point I read something about the return rate of customers who were booth sprayed vs. airbrush /HVLP sprayed and it was like 4 to 1 for the airbrush /HVLP. They also mentioned the returning client was much more likely to buy into your other services and cont. to use your salon/spa much longer. To me booths have there place and so does airbrush /HVLP. I believe booths work great in a high traffic salon/tanning salons where the repeat spray tan person isn't that high up on salon's list. In other words the salon doesn't even notice. I know we got two of those places in our area. Airbrush /HVLP is perfect for that smaller tanning salon/salon or the salons that are very personal to everyones needs(your very high end salon). Also many people just don't have the $$$$$ to purchase a spray booth and the airbrush /HVLP way is so much cheaper intially. Which makes the risk of adding it so much lower. | |
08-25-2006, 12:11 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Help with Spray onvs Airbrushing We have both services: Mystic and HVLP(Custom Bronzer 4000) Basically..the deal is to be able to service the needs of any UV Free client..no reason to go else where unless your booth or your specialist suck...IMO must folks want options. I agree I think the Booths are going out and us salon owners are looking for something new that the salon on the corner doesnt have yet...I think you need both as options and let the client choose. Options..options..is the key..We did have 2 mystic booths and sold one (thank goodness) WEll that was my 2cents worth..whatever that is worth..:) |
08-25-2006, 04:23 PM | #16 (permalink) |
Join Date: Oct 26 2004 Location: Florida
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Rep Power: 21 | Re: Help with Spray onvs Airbrushing You are all entitled to your opinions and I will not try to convince you otherwise. No sense in starting fights over opinions. In any case.......Time is always an issue. If it takes you 20 minutes to perform a spray tan , I can tan 4 in that same time, making that much more money. I agree that the start-up costs for a booth is more, but booth will last longer and over time cost less. Remember you have to either hire another person to do the sprays or, if you are busy, you'll be interupting the spray tanning to take care of other customers. Then there is the training, and the fact of tanning naked people. There are issues there too. Most people like the idea they are alone in a booth. We can discuss the different booths, but we both know that the reason they are for resale is because the salon is out of business, the booth did not do what was expected, etc. The same goes for the HVLP units. You see many of those for sale too. Can you afford to offer both? Possibly. If you are a small salon ( I have just 6 beds and a booth) you day do either. I prefer the booth because I can stay at the desk and don't have to breath the spray, and don't have to worry about lawsuits of the sexual nature. It is quick, easy to clean and less time. And I am relatively lazy. You say you've talked to people, but have you tried a booth tan? Like air-brushing, it is important for the customer to exfoliate before getting tanned. I have pre-tanning jels for those that don't and exfoliants and after tanning moisturizers so that they receive the best possible results. I also sell a touch-up spray for those instances where they want just their face or legs done before going out. It's service and knowledge of the process and your equipment that will make a happy customer.
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08-25-2006, 04:54 PM | #17 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Help with Spray onvs Airbrushing Lawsuits of the sexual nature?? Fill me in on that one? Not being a smart ***. But I think the booth has the same issue to some degree...I heard of a salon in upstate got busted for putting a peep hole in their Mystic booth/room...so...really a "perv..is a perv..no matter spray booth, airbrush , tanning beds..etc.. I agree booth is less hassel, but clients are clients and I feel for "us" we have clients who want choices..We combine or hvlp which we only book 10min. per client and works well..20 min. must be airbrush .. Booth if done properly still takes time off book..depends on clients speed also..can't keep them out of the booth if they are a slow poke..ha..No joke..we had a client in our Mystic booth who took 30 min. (thank goodness we had 2 booths) we literally had to ask her to get out. So ..everything has its up and downs.. time factors, employees, messy situations, etc..its all in what you want to deal with: cost factors/situations/$$ brough in..OPTIONS>> I think everyone has great ideas for their salon..its good to hear from other salons and their opinions. I know I have learned some things on here and applied them to our salon..thanks everyone |
08-25-2006, 04:59 PM | #18 (permalink) |
Join Date: Oct 26 2004 Location: Florida
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Rep Power: 21 | Re: Help with Spray onvs Airbrushing My customers are in and out of the booth withing 5 minutes. It takes them more time to get undressed and redressed than it does to get sprayed. (I have a 10 second booth). As for the lawsuits, meing a male, it is not good for me to spray tanning women. I don't even like the idea of women spraying men. Putting holes in walls or cameras in the room is pure stupid. You want to see neked people, go to a strip club. I agree that sharing information is the way to go. If there is anything more I can tell you, just ask. :)
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08-25-2006, 10:47 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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Rep Power: 107 | Re: Help with Spray onvs Airbrushing The only pitfalls with a booth is that the results, most times, depend on the clients themselves. All systems seem to have a video to watch and some fancy dance steps to learn. After a few times they may perfect these, but with hvlp or airbush systems, there is some else controlling the variables. IMO. |
08-26-2006, 06:58 AM | #20 (permalink) |
Join Date: Feb 1 2006 Location: Tennessee Age: 62
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Rep Power: 103 | Re: Help with Spray onvs Airbrushing I have some spray clients that aren't "built" properly for the booth. A roll here, a fold there, etc. Most women now days do not have the figure to be able to get an even coverage in a booth. (If you are built like Cindy and can make it work, fine) A handheld application allows for even coverage of areas that a booth will not spray without standing on your head in there. Also, rubbing it in doesn't set well with most of the clients I've talked with. Over half of my spray clients had visited a booth first and weren't satified.
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