mr belvedere

Synthesized is a total professional, with a white wine sense of humor and delivery that I greatly admire. I'm more Cold Duck, on good days. And Mad Dog 50/50 on my best days. Besides, I don't have to respond on every thread. I just like to. Cheers.

amazingtan

Tamplin...I'm from Brighton!!!!...but now tanning people in California!!!...also with Mystic!!!yee haa...

mr belvedere

GIDDYUP COWGIRL!!

synthesized

Amazing, your correct, the wire is the ground. The electrode is positioned in the nozzles, and charge the fluid particles at that point. The mist within the booth can then be considered a charged cloud which surrounds the customer. As the customer is standing on the grounded plate, they represent the opposite potential, which then provides for the 'attraction of unlike charges'. Interestingly, the booth itself, being made of plastic, has the ability to contain the charge within the mist cloud. Metal constructions would quickly conduct the charge away, eliminating the effect.

Miss Vani-T mentioned the polarized rod. Such a device would represent a finite amount of energy stored within (on) such an object, typically being placed there by either mechanical or electrical means. It now approximates a storage device. Upon holding it, that energy would be available to do work, ie; attract dislike charges. However, the energies typically stored in such devices are very small, and the charge potential would dissipate quickly. Holding a polorized rod my actually have the opposite effect as 'like' charges repel.

In the Mystic system, the charge is maintained by a power supply so that freshly charged mist is introduced into the booth which provides continuous energy for the 'mechanics' of attraction. Excuse me for being so 'wordy'.


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mr belvedere

Don't you have a space shuttle to reengineer or something? Glad you made it back tonight.

synthesized

just out cruising to see if there were any cats in the headlights.

Miss Vani-T

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On 2005-08-30 01:07:00, synthesized wrote:
Amazing, your correct, the wire is the ground. The electrode is positioned in the nozzles, and charge the fluid particles at that point. The mist within the booth can then be considered a charged cloud which surrounds the customer. As the customer is standing on the grounded plate, they represent the opposite potential, which then provides for the 'attraction of unlike charges'. Interestingly, the booth itself, being made of plastic, has the ability to contain the charge within the mist cloud. Metal constructions would quickly conduct the charge away, eliminating the effect.

Miss Vani-T mentioned the polarized rod. Such a device would represent a finite amount of energy stored within (on) such an object, typically being placed there by either mechanical or electrical means. It now approximates a storage device. Upon holding it, that energy would be available to do work, ie; attract dislike charges. However, the energies typically stored in such devices are very small, and the charge potential would dissipate quickly. Holding a polorized rod my actually have the opposite effect as 'like' charges repel.

In the Mystic system, the charge is maintained by a power supply so that freshly charged mist is introduced into the booth which provides continuous energy for the 'mechanics' of attraction. Excuse me for being so 'wordy'.


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[ This Message was edited by: synthesized on 2005-08-30 01:12 ]

Great explanation! Question though. Wouldn't the extremities of the body (ie hands, feet and face) attract more of the "charged" solution ?

mr belvedere

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On 2005-08-30 01:16:00, synthesized wrote:
just out cruising to see if there were any cats in the headlights.
Sorry to interrupt Miss Vani-T. Syn, I have a bunch in the trunk. Go ahead and grab a couple. Help yourself to the zip ties too.

synthesized

Quote:Wouldn't the extremities of the body (ie hands, feet and face) attract more of the "charged" solution ? The charged particles have greater attraction to a higher voltage differential. The act of 'mating' results in the charges of the particle and the recipient in that molecular region, to become balanced. This region now has less appeal to the cloud particles. Depending on the conductivity of the recipient, this newly created 'balanced' charge will diminish, increasing the attractiveness to the charge cloud particles. So we can see that the question now becomes, how does the conductivity of the human body effect electrostatic coating?

A perfect conductor would shunt that charge away instantly, resulting in a very dense coating at the point closest to the clouds energy source. The opposite scenario would be your charged rod, an insulator. The coverage would be perfectly uniform over the entire object(subject to an aditional force, impingement). The conductivity of the human body is somewhere toward the conductor. Because of it's large H2O makeup, it does conduct. What we see through modelling and experience, is that the human body, when subject to the electrostatic principles, provides a substantially more even coating then via impingement delivery alone. Is it perfect? no, is it improved, substantially.

In a perfect electrostatic delivery, one would remove the mechanical effects of impingement. Another force at work is capillary, wherein the dryness of ones skin will pull in moisture with forces that can excede the electrostatic effects. An additional force that complicates is gravity, resulting in a denser particle cloud closer to the ground. This is largely mitigated by delivering the particle cloud to the upper layers.

So to answer your question, the electrostatic forces resist uneven coating, whilst other forces (impingement, capillary) promote it.

synthesized

Your probably starting to think that this guy is over the top, but let me explain my enthusiasm. 5? years ago someone showed me this Mystic thing, and I thought 'your kidding'. After a couple of months, I began to think, hey that's kind of cool. Then, when I realized that the industry was made up largely of gorgeous young ladies, I said I'm in. So off I went, exposing the benefits to anyone that listened. It was very clear to me that Mystic's application of electrostatics had brought T.Laughlin's brainchild out of conception and into a commercially viable product.

It wasn't long before it came to my attention that another booth had hit the market, so I had a look. It was clear that a misconception had taken place, a misunderstanding of sorts. This booth was based on Tom's impingement technology and did not contain improvements beyond that would create a 'vialble' technology. The Mystic wave was building however, so this booth did surf along for some time. And, as the Mystic wave built in mass, it was sure to happen that more would paddle over to enjoy the ride.

Now, the realization has set in that the wave has crested. It likely won't crash (pending any 'findings'), and has considerable mass left in it. So sunless will have some good days ahead. What you will see however is a bunch of little surfers out there in the big ocean, with no wave to ride. Not good when all the tanners are lying back on the beach having a great party and soaking up the UV.