Mystic Tan Suing California Tan - Page 3 - tanTALK

Neon Beach · 03-02-2005, 08:04 PM

I agree, they have gone beyond a sunless spray and now have a booth.......

HOT STUFF · 03-02-2005, 08:51 PM

Jeff, the innocent salon owner that bought one of the other systems knew that there
was a battle going on over the patents for spray booths. My two choices was the Mystic or the Magic and what made the deciding choice easier was that Mystic had the patents or had use of the patents for the booths. I feel sorry for the salon owners
that bought the booths before the manufactures were sued, but if you bought one after
that you knew what was happening . Look at it this way, if i opened a salon 2 blocks from you and put in the same equipment,same buildout,and called my salon the same as your's. What would you do?
I would think you would sue me,"not for the equipment or buildout", because that name
is your property. If you sue me and i still sell franchises to people that know i am being sued for using your name, are they still innocent salon owners?

JeffinKC · 03-02-2005, 09:06 PM

Yes they are still innocent.....
I can understand litigation between the companies involved in the patent dispute but will always believe it is out of line to sue the end user that has done nothing other than purchase a piece of equipment.

Laughlin has used this type of scare tactic to intimidate salon owners into purchasing his booth and maybe it does not matter to you but in my opinion it is disgusting. Hopefully very soon a company will step up and refuse to settle. Then a jury can decide how valid these patents truly are.

As far as your choice in buying a Mystic I have to laugh at you on that one...aren't you from Texas???? The home of Palm Beach Tan the same company that charged you $30k plus will now use that money to open across the street from you.
Another business practice from these guys that makes me want to vomit.

HOT STUFF · 03-02-2005, 09:25 PM

Jeff, you act like i don't already have a chain close to me. PB may want take on
Robbie or they may not. I already have a chain selling tanning for $18.88 a month.
So if they think they want to take him on they will. Robbie could decide tomorrow
that he wants to go across the street from me. He has one about three miles from me now and i didn't give him any money.

JeffinKC · 03-02-2005, 09:59 PM

My point exactly you didn't give him any money.....he can do what he wants. I personally would demand more from the folks I am writing a check to.

DWhite6872 · 03-02-2005, 10:00 PM

I have bought a Mystic Tan and I have been so dead against it...but there was not another real option...I hope Cal Tan has the option....I will find my post on another site regarding this topic...I was actually kind of funny for me....

DWhite6872 · 03-02-2005, 10:05 PM

Okay, I am not known for being funny but this is my post from another site...regarding the Cal tan Mystic fight....

umm...that happens all of the time! I wish I could sue someone who copies our look or advertising!

I invented the buck booster...I invented it 10 years ago...and I am offended that salons are using this accross the country. I am going to sue all salons that utilize our buck booster......I cannot believe that salons are creating buck boosters and other forms of alternative methods of juicing their beds....I can understand the Mystic claim....I know we began the whole spray booth method of tanning....we should be the only company who should ever be able to create a booth that sprays tanning solution on you! If anyone ever sprays you they should be put out of business....this should never be a standard piece of equipment or an every day usage! We own it.....stop spraying now or you also can be sued!

banana1614 · 03-02-2005, 10:11 PM

I think you're VERY funny, but I invented the buck booster.

HOT STUFF · 03-02-2005, 11:31 PM

Jeff, I am not saying that I am in love with PB as a company. The best choice for me
was the mystic. If ITS or some other company is your choice, good luck to you and I hope everything works out great for you. I may be wrong but I thought that someone from ITS on one of the forums said they were going to try an reach a settlement with
the doc. If it so, when you get that ITS machine, you too will be putting money into the doc's hands. If you sell caltan lotions, call them up and demand that they can't
sell one of their machines to someone in your area because your are putting money in
their pockets and see what they tell you.

sport a tan · 03-03-2005, 02:20 AM

Whats funny is you saying that your best choice was to buy from and support your competition! Why is it that all the bed manufacturers are not fighting over patents? The patent is that for a spraying apparatus that coats the skin...there are a lot of them on the market, is a bottle of spray tan an apparatus? How much do you think Palm Beach Tan pays for their Mystic?

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03-02-2005, 08:04 PM	#21 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	I agree, they have gone beyond a sunless spray and now have a booth.......

03-02-2005, 08:51 PM	#22 (permalink)
HOT STUFF Join Date: Jan 5 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 759 Rep Power: 21	Jeff, the innocent salon owner that bought one of the other systems knew that there was a battle going on over the patents for spray booths. My two choices was the Mystic or the Magic and what made the deciding choice easier was that Mystic had the patents or had use of the patents for the booths. I feel sorry for the salon owners that bought the booths before the manufactures were sued, but if you bought one after that you knew what was happening . Look at it this way, if i opened a salon 2 blocks from you and put in the same equipment,same buildout,and called my salon the same as your's. What would you do? I would think you would sue me,"not for the equipment or buildout", because that name is your property. If you sue me and i still sell franchises to people that know i am being sued for using your name, are they still innocent salon owners?

03-02-2005, 09:06 PM	#23 (permalink)
JeffinKC Join Date: Apr 21 2001 Posts: 418 Rep Power: 24	Yes they are still innocent..... I can understand litigation between the companies involved in the patent dispute but will always believe it is out of line to sue the end user that has done nothing other than purchase a piece of equipment. Laughlin has used this type of scare tactic to intimidate salon owners into purchasing his booth and maybe it does not matter to you but in my opinion it is disgusting. Hopefully very soon a company will step up and refuse to settle. Then a jury can decide how valid these patents truly are. As far as your choice in buying a Mystic I have to laugh at you on that one...aren't you from Texas???? The home of Palm Beach Tan the same company that charged you $30k plus will now use that money to open across the street from you. Another business practice from these guys that makes me want to vomit.

03-02-2005, 09:25 PM	#24 (permalink)
HOT STUFF Join Date: Jan 5 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 759 Rep Power: 21	Jeff, you act like i don't already have a chain close to me. PB may want take on Robbie or they may not. I already have a chain selling tanning for $18.88 a month. So if they think they want to take him on they will. Robbie could decide tomorrow that he wants to go across the street from me. He has one about three miles from me now and i didn't give him any money.

03-02-2005, 09:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
JeffinKC Join Date: Apr 21 2001 Posts: 418 Rep Power: 24	My point exactly you didn't give him any money.....he can do what he wants. I personally would demand more from the folks I am writing a check to.

03-02-2005, 10:00 PM	#26 (permalink)
DWhite6872 Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Apr 22 2004 Posts: 3,646 Rep Power: 0	I have bought a Mystic Tan and I have been so dead against it...but there was not another real option...I hope Cal Tan has the option....I will find my post on another site regarding this topic...I was actually kind of funny for me....

03-02-2005, 10:11 PM	#28 (permalink)
banana1614 Join Date: Nov 17 2004 Posts: 300 Rep Power: 20	I think you're VERY funny, but I invented the buck booster.

03-02-2005, 11:31 PM	#29 (permalink)
HOT STUFF Join Date: Jan 5 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 759 Rep Power: 21	Jeff, I am not saying that I am in love with PB as a company. The best choice for me was the mystic. If ITS or some other company is your choice, good luck to you and I hope everything works out great for you. I may be wrong but I thought that someone from ITS on one of the forums said they were going to try an reach a settlement with the doc. If it so, when you get that ITS machine, you too will be putting money into the doc's hands. If you sell caltan lotions, call them up and demand that they can't sell one of their machines to someone in your area because your are putting money in their pockets and see what they tell you.

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