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Old 05-10-2012, 02:00 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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What are you talking about? Are you on the wrong site? Mods where are you?
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
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I would not invest in this right now. Many unknowns. You also need to consider entry costs of perhaps 1000 for lamps add in 5k to advertise it year one and labor to explain it you have a 18-24 month breakeven and in that timeframe it will be regulated or well on its way. Its a risk.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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I'm in California and we just had the board of cosmetology come by today and tell us we are not allowed to use our lumiere facial unit without a licensed esthetician. Has anybody run into this problem? I was very shocked because we got the unit soley based on the fact that you don't need a licensed esthetician to do the facials.
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I would fight it; as long as you are not applying the product, you are simply offering a device for the client to use. Plus, the devices are 100% non-invasive and non-ablative. Contact Photo-therapeutics ASAP and have them assist you with this. You can buy RLT devices for at home use; are they going to make the Wal-Marts of California remove those from the shelves too?

Clearly this is political, some derms are upset and using their connections to intimidate you.
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That's what I thought. The inspector that came in was really stupid. she didn't' understand what red light therapy was and even had to call her supervisor to see what she needed to do. I have contacted photo-therapeutics but they are now called Photomedex and its nearly impossible to get through. They have become a new company and our old rep was laid off and our new rep, although very nice, does not get back to us a timely fashion. But yes, im going to have them assist us because if for some odd reason California doesn't allow red light therapy to be done by us then they shouldn't have sold it to us. But i think it is all BS and the inspector and her boss are just poorly educated on the subject. Which is a shame because now we are loosing business because we cannot offer the facial until we appeal it with the board. What a bunch of BS..don't you think?
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If they are not simply acting as hench-men for the local derms, they are more than likely confusing it with laser.

Never in 8 years (since Lumiere came out) have I seen a state ban LED RLT.
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I'm in California and we just had the board of cosmetology come by today and tell us we are not allowed to use our lumiere facial unit without a licensed esthetician. Has anybody run into this problem? I was very shocked because we got the unit soley based on the fact that you don't need a licensed esthetician to do the facials.
They may be able to do that. There are some restrictions at to what spectrum you can use. In some areas the Medical Board may have control over that spectrum being used regardless of the intensity.
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We have converted a tanning bed to red light and I have a customer that swears by it for pain control. He says he has quit taking his Oxy since he uses Red Light. He wants to buy a year package, but I am afraid to sell because of legislaion. I think I am going to try to sell him the whole bed, red lights, and a set of UV lamps because he also tans and then put that money towards a medium level bed. I think we would make more money with upgrades to a medium level bed.
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RLT should be a great slow season seller. If used properly, clients should really see results. A good skin care regimen with quality skin care products (paraben, sulfate, gluten free, etc) and your clients will be fighting their way through your doors for RLT. It's a shame the goverment has to get involved and ruin these great opportunities. Anything that is good for us, the government has to step in and ruin. Very sad.
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Re: Red Light Therapy

Opija..had the same situation here in Colorado except it came from Public Health. They served a ceast and desist order on the Lumiere.

First off..they totally confused it with laser red light. The class ll medical device status that the Lumiere is in is totally legal for you to have. Despite ALL the literature and FDA approval sent to them they would not budge for us.

What saved us is Lumiere stepped in and called them. After Lumiere's legal people talked to them PH called us and told us we could use it.

Hopefully you can get them to go to bat for you as well. They don't want this to become an issue in states.

LED Red light is sold in magazines too.
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