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Old 06-01-2008, 07:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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tanning results ?

i'm fair, skin type two. i started going every other day and my start time was 8 minutes. after my skin stopped getting red after tanning, which was after about three times, i figured i'd move up to ten minutes. i've gone tanning about 8 or so times. i try to go every other day when i have the money.

how long will it take me to get a good tan ? my skin is still pretty pale. i am using Designer Skin Born To Be Bronze because that's what the salon recommended for me.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Re: tanning results ?

S.Y.S.T.I.M. - Save Your Skin Tan In Moderation

You should never get red (unless you are using a hot-action lotion). I think you were tanning too long to start. I am a skin type two, and although I can get very dark, I start at 3 minutes and stay there for several sessions. I know, most people don't like to start that low, but this is your SKIN we're talking about, the largest organ in/on your body - don't disserve it by doing irreversible damage, especially when it is so easily avoided. Saving a few dollars now is nothing compared to saving your skin for the rest of your life.

I keep the first tans close together (I give myself a day in between - a "tan" can continue to develop for 24-48 hours after exposure) but for shorter amounts of time to make sure you aren't burning but are building on what you are getting. Sessions four and five are usually around 5 minutes, and I continue to increase like this - slow and low - until I reach my maximum tanning time and I never burn. I honestly can't say when I noticed I had a tan, but I can say I did not ever see red, and I get very tan in the end.

Everybody's skin is different, so it would be impossible to say when you will have a "good tan" but you really have to tan in moderation - especially if you are a low skin type - if you want to effectively use UVB tanning beds.

You could try using a high-percentage UVA/low-percentage UVB bed (some people call them UVA beds or bronzing beds) in the meantime, like every fifth tan or so, to get some color development faster. They tend to produce deeper, browner tans more quickly, but don't give you that "protective" base tan. They are also usually fast beds (sometimes 8,10, or 12 minutes) - avoid the temptation to do the full time if you are a true skin type two until you have a better base as it sounds like you have a tendancy to burn a little.

I am not familiar with the lotion you are using because I only carry California Tan, but a bronzer should be giving you color that should last a couple of days. If you are tanning every other day, you should have some color development from the bronzer. If you want the top of the line, Cypher Step 1 Bronzer is VERY NICE (at a price $$$) - but you can achieve good results with most bronzers by applying them evenly and regularly. If you are skipping a day in the beds, still use the lotion to get the bronzers.

Have you thought of using Sunless Tanning while you are building your "real" tan? We do the hand-held airbrush style at my salon, and in my opinion, it rocks. You can get it very light and natural and build it up just like you would your tan over the summer. Just remember, Sunless Tanning, like the high-UVA/low-UVB tanning bed, gives you color but not a protective tan like you are building in the regular UVB beds, so you still probably need sunscreen for a while, even if you look gorgeous :)

Just out of curiousity, did anyone at your salon even ask you if you were getting red/burned at 8 minutes before allowing you to continue on that regimen? If it turns out to be my store - that person's fired!
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Re: tanning results ?

i'm using the "regular tanning bed" at my salon, which has, (according to their website) - "28 Intense, 20 Minute Maximum, Dark Tanning, Mega Strong lamps"

no, nobody asked me if i was burning. i did get red from the tanning, but the next day the redness was almost completely if not fully gone. also, when i asked to bump up to 10 minutes, i wasn't questioned or warned or anything. however, this is the popular tanning salon in my area (that isn't apart of a hairsalon or nailcare or such) and many girls i know that go there look nice.

my skin usually doesn't tan very well in the sun, my arms and neck are the tanned parts of me because they were burned so much at my summer job that they turned tan. i don't have many freckles but i do have some. however, both my parents have good tans - my mother doesn't lay out at all and she is tan, and my dad used to (but hasn't in awhile) and he still has the tan from that. so i do believe it's possible that i can tan, it's just gonna take work.

so you're saying i can use my bronzing lotion to get a little color when i'm not at the salon ? i was wondering about that, i'm glad you mentioned it. how long should i wait until i wash it off ? if you go to designerskin.com , then products , then Splash! Tanning Tonics, then Born To Be Bronze , you can see my lotion.

i feel like now that my skin is used to 10 minutes, going down to 3 would just be wasting time. my skin doesn't react to 10 (no redness of a sunburn or anything when i get out) anymore. what do you think ?
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Re: tanning results ?

oh, one more question. why do i get more of a reddish tan than a golden bronze ? what can i do to change that ?

thanks for the thorough response
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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oh, one more question. why do i get more of a reddish tan than a golden bronze ? what can i do to change that ?

thanks for the thorough response
I'm not suggesting you go back to 3 minutes if you are no longer getting red, I just don't think you should have started at that long, but you're past that point so it's moot. Please note, however, burned skin never "turns into a tan" - it is dead and gone, Daddy, gone. And it leaves your skin vulnerable in the interim to deeper damage.

As for the bronzer, most indoor bronzers work within two hours after application. The DHA reacts with the protien in your skin's outermost layer to turn it brown. DHA begins to breakdown once exposed to the elements like air, so it maxes out after a couple of hours.

To answer your question regarding the red vs. bronze tan, it's all about the rays. UVB (the rays in the regular beds that you are using now) are sometimes referred to as reddening rays, alas, producing a "redder" tan. UVA will give you a more brown look. I like mixing them up - best of both worlds. Remember, UVA will not give you a protective tan so that's why I like UVB. UVA, on the other hand, is the bronzing ray - need I say more. There are other reasons I use both, but I can talk A LOT (my husband is looking over my shoulder saying "enough already") and I really have to take the 4-year old to bed.

Hope this helps. Happy Tanning.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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yes, it definitely does. thanks alot =]
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Re: tanning results ?

I really liked Soltanner's advice about building with frequent, short sessions.

I'm also a type 2 (usually a 2b or c depending on the questionnaire) but was surprised when I joined a new salon and was typed as a 3 (their questionnaire was very misleading, it had fewer and more general questions - no doubt to steer people into going for more minutes). The person there suggested I go for 10 minutes my first session, and I had to tell her NO WAY! I ended up going for 8, which was just right for me. (I'd just returned from the tropics or I'd have only done 5 to start). Unfortunately, a week went by before I could get back in there again, so I cut the time back to 7 mins. She again tried to talk me up to 10, but I know my skin and was able to gently emphasize that I'd be sticking to 7. I couldn't believe it, later, when I saw another customer (alabaster white and obviously there for her first tan), stating she wanted to go the full 20 mins. and she was not stopped! To the employee's credit, she did initially question her, but the woman insisted her skin tanned easily and never burned, so she was allowed to do it. If it were me, I would have insisted on a shorter session and then had her come out afterward to prove she hadn't burned (I had someone do that for me at another salon years ago, and it was incredibly smart!).

I couldn't help but wonder how that woman fared, and whether she ended up crusty and miserable afterward? Hopefully she knew her skin as well as I know mine! *LOL*
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Omgsh, I had kind of a similar experience at my salon. It was my 4th tanning sessions and the first 2 were supers the kind w.o buring rays and the 3rd was a med bed for 8 minutes, well when I went in I was suggested the med. Stand up bed. Well that bed has a 9 min max since its pretty intenst and I was actually told I would be fine if I go for 8 minutes!! Thats after I had explained my previous tanning expeirnces and my skin type (pretty fair). Get this they also suggested I try Bombshell.. an advanced sizzle tingler and I'd never even used a tingle before but they assured me I'd be fine.. I couldnt believe they wouldnt take better care of there customers!!!

Maybe I am at the wrong salon!?
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Old 03-26-2009, 07:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Re: tanning results ?

I have a question? I have layed in the tanning bed before. it has just been a while. After I have layed about 4 times i started to get a rash that did not itch on my legs and lower stomach. But now the rash no longer is on my stomach even after i lay. What do you think?









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Originally Posted by soltanner View Post
S.Y.S.T.I.M. - Save Your Skin Tan In Moderation

You should never get red (unless you are using a hot-action lotion). I think you were tanning too long to start. I am a skin type two, and although I can get very dark, I start at 3 minutes and stay there for several sessions. I know, most people don't like to start that low, but this is your SKIN we're talking about, the largest organ in/on your body - don't disserve it by doing irreversible damage, especially when it is so easily avoided. Saving a few dollars now is nothing compared to saving your skin for the rest of your life.

I keep the first tans close together (I give myself a day in between - a "tan" can continue to develop for 24-48 hours after exposure) but for shorter amounts of time to make sure you aren't burning but are building on what you are getting. Sessions four and five are usually around 5 minutes, and I continue to increase like this - slow and low - until I reach my maximum tanning time and I never burn. I honestly can't say when I noticed I had a tan, but I can say I did not ever see red, and I get very tan in the end.

Everybody's skin is different, so it would be impossible to say when you will have a "good tan" but you really have to tan in moderation - especially if you are a low skin type - if you want to effectively use UVB tanning beds.

You could try using a high-percentage UVA/low-percentage UVB bed (some people call them UVA beds or bronzing beds) in the meantime, like every fifth tan or so, to get some color development faster. They tend to produce deeper, browner tans more quickly, but don't give you that "protective" base tan. They are also usually fast beds (sometimes 8,10, or 12 minutes) - avoid the temptation to do the full time if you are a true skin type two until you have a better base as it sounds like you have a tendancy to burn a little.

I am not familiar with the lotion you are using because I only carry California Tan, but a bronzer should be giving you color that should last a couple of days. If you are tanning every other day, you should have some color development from the bronzer. If you want the top of the line, Cypher Step 1 Bronzer is VERY NICE (at a price $$$) - but you can achieve good results with most bronzers by applying them evenly and regularly. If you are skipping a day in the beds, still use the lotion to get the bronzers.

Have you thought of using Sunless Tanning while you are building your "real" tan? We do the hand-held airbrush style at my salon, and in my opinion, it rocks. You can get it very light and natural and build it up just like you would your tan over the summer. Just remember, Sunless Tanning, like the high-UVA/low-UVB tanning bed, gives you color but not a protective tan like you are building in the regular UVB beds, so you still probably need sunscreen for a while, even if you look gorgeous :)

Just out of curiousity, did anyone at your salon even ask you if you were getting red/burned at 8 minutes before allowing you to continue on that regimen? If it turns out to be my store - that person's fired!
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