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Old 12-20-2006, 07:28 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:34 AM   #32 (permalink)
 
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not true.

While your theory is correct it does not apply to natural heat and light exposure. Pills, topical drying agents, on the other hand, are drying via drugs. In some cases a timed release that your body will have to bust *** to overcome. Never had an issue with tanning as I would have noticed this myself having acne (at one time at least)

If you use a good face wash, toner, moisturiser with no drying agents then tanning plus a quality follow up is the best way to clear acne.

Seriously?? Yes heat and light exposure of any kind can cause issues with acne. It can temporarily reduce the appearance but it does not cure it.

"Tanning beds may help acne initially, but dermatologists have found that acne will often become worse after a while. Tanning causes the skin to thicken and keratinize, which makes it more difficult to clear the pores. In general, tanning is not considered an appropriate way to manage acne" dr drew 2001

If tanning worked for you,great, but you probably had grade one acne. There are four different grades of acne ranging from non-inflammatory, inflammatory, skin mainly containing closed comedones, to skin consisting of lesions(papules and pustules). We use a scale of one to ten to diagnose and prescribe the best treatment for an individual. Did you know that there are at least 21 different types of acne? And those are only the ones I can name off the top of my head. While most effective topicals are temporarily drying, the skin usually balances out in about two weeks.

But really the point of all this is basically if you haven't been extensively trained to diagnose and treat these conditions, you are better off keeping your mouth shut or it will come back to bite you on the *** at some point. I would never recommend a hair color and peroxide percentage to someone because I wouldn't know what the *uck I was talking about. And I sure as shi* wouldn't be applying the color treatment for them. The tanning industry is already under the magnifying glass so lets not add fuel to their fire.

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Old 12-21-2006, 02:55 PM   #33 (permalink)
 
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Re: Acne

sorry but

""Tanning beds may help acne initially, but dermatologists have found that acne will often become worse after a while."

shows that you have not a clue. Dermatologists prescribe pills that destroy your kidneys and liver and none of what they offer even come close to what a tan will do in terms of clearing up the skin.

You are very uninformed my friend.

The only reason skin doctors can't stand tanning is because a tanning bed can replace 90% of what they offer and do it in a safe and reliable fashion without side effects other than good health. If they came out and said the sun is good for you then they'd be out of business and be held liable for 50years of sun suppression that's responsible for most of the internal cancers/illnesses people now die from.

You have an agenda friend and are not speaking the truth.

You'll find that a good amount of the break outs people suffer from are due to bad diet, stress, not drinking enough water, using dirty water, hormones.

None of these causes can be solved with some creme but tanning does help all of these.

who do you REALLY work for is my question.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Whether or not tanning helps acne, a salon should never recommend tanning for the treatment of acne or any other medical condition. Tanning in a salon is cosmetic only not for medical treatment for any skin or medical disorder . When a salon offers advice on a medical conditions they have crosses the line. Some skin disorders can worsen with the use of UV light a good example is Eczema, It has been said that tanning helps with this skin disorder if a salon recommends tanning to help the client and the eczema turns out to be Photo-allergic Eczema the client’s skin will get worse.

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You can recommend anything you want. I recommend people tell their dermatologists off threaten to sue for lying to them for all these years but that's just me who likes to deal in reality and pass on make up nonsense. As for "making someone's skin worse" you are talking one in a million. Bad kidneys is ok with you? Cause that's what you get when you pop a pill for acne.
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As for being a realest maybe, you should look at the big picture. Laws and Reg ARE being made across the country. If salons starts giving medical advice to clients, do you really think that the medical community will sit back and say what a great job the tanning industry is doing medically advising our patients? Remember that a tanning bed is a class 2 medical device and the FDA has the power to reclassify them to a class 1 medical device.
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excuse me. We are talking about what actually works not what we are supposed to think works. 2 totally different situations. If someone comes in and asks if tanning will help his/her body acne or whatever I'm going to tell them the absolute truth. Tanning is much more effective for most acne but it's a start. you need to figure out what's bringing it on.
The last part is the most important and that's the part the skin doctors could care less about cause there is no sale if they figure out that they are using lever2000 to wash their face.
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You didn’t answer my question.
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The problem is that the question has nothing to do with this thread. Nothing. The thread was about what to do about acne in an unregulated conversation. I'm not going to bs someone cause the law might step in. the only people bsn is the people refusing to use their 2nd grade science education to apply reality to the dangers and benefits of the sun. That being that the sun is all giving and the 6 people that will die from it shouldn't have anything to do with the rest of us.
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Re: Acne

My question has a lot to do with this thread.
The general public views a salon owner/operator as an expert on UV light so when a salon owner/operator start advising someone on the treatment of a disorder with the use of a tanning bed (a medical device) it falls under practicing medicine without a license.

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Definition of the Practice of Medicine

The Federation of State Medical Boards of the United States defines the practice of medicine to include the following:

1. advertising, holding out to the public, or representing in any manner that one is authorized to practice medicine in the jurisdiction;

2. offering or undertaking to prescribe, give, or administer any drug or medicine for the use of any other person;

3. offering or undertaking to prevent or to diagnose, correct, and/or treat in any manner or by any means, methods, devices, or instrumentalities any disease, illness, pain, wound, fracture, infirmity, deformity, defect, or abnormal physical or mental condition of any person, including the management of pregnancy and parturition;

4. offering or undertaking to perform any surgical operation upon any person; and

5. using the designation Doctor, Doctor of Medicine, Doctor of Osteopathy, Physician and Surgeon, Dr., M.D., D. O., or any combination thereof in the conduct of any occupation or profession pertaining to the prevention, diagnosis, or treatment of human disease or condition (unless such a designation is in addition to the designation of another healing art (e.g., dentistry), for which one holds a valid license in the jurisdiction).
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The Practice of Medicine Without a License
Several practitioners of unconventional cancer treatments have been prosecuted for the criminal
charge of practicing medicine without a license. In California, Milan Brych claimed to have received a medical degree outside of the United States, but was treating patients without having a State license. Brych was convicted on a number of charges, including practicing medicine without a license, grand theft, and grand theft by false pretenses.

In another case, two health food store owners in Indiana, Harry Graham, a “nutritional therapist”
and Ellen Graham, a registered nurse, treated a breast cancer patient with laetrile and colonic
irrigations. The patient eventually died and the Grahams were tried and convicted of practicing
medicine without a license, criminal recklessness, and involuntary manslaughter.

In another California case, an unlicensed healer was prosecuted for treating a leukemia patient with lemonade, salt water, herb tea, special light therapy, and deep abdominal massage. The patient died as a result of massive internal bleeding, possibly as a result of the abdominal massage. The practitioner was convicted of practicing medicine without a license and the
illegal sale of certain drugs. The initial conviction also included the charge of second degree murder but was later reversed because causation could not be established.

Some States are developing legislation that would
restrict anyone except registered dietitians or physicians from counseling patients about nutrition,
making it illegal for many nutritional advocates and non-physician practitioners to give nutritional advice. Some nutritional advocates have already been found guilty of practicing medicine without a license.
The Washington State Department of Licensing began an investigation of Matson
after a physician reported that the employees of a local wig salon had given a cancer patient information on nutritional treatments. Two undercover agents posing as a cancer patient and her husband went to the salon, and were then referred to Matson. Matson was charged with practicing medicine without a license after advising the ‘cancer patient” that she had scurvy and that she should ‘‘discontinue chemotherapy because it would prevent nutritional
therapy from working”.

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