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Old 02-13-2006, 08:38 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I am just saying that the device does work and if you work at it you can make some good $ with out the help of corporate.
Thank God for that, considering you can't believe what the "corporate" office says from day to day. So HOT, in the interest of promoting not only your Lumiere business but also your Lumiere sales business, maybe you would see your way to post specifically what it is you do to market and promote Lumiere to the consumers in your market. RAI may have lost their credibility, but you still have plenty as far as I'm concerned. It could be a big help to some folks out there could make end up making life very miserable for others if they don't start seeing the income they were promised by the "corporate" office. -Belvy
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Old 02-13-2006, 11:49 PM   #42 (permalink)
 
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Tom,
Why is expecting to receive, what I and others, where promised preceived as a bad attitude? There is a fine line between being a salesman and a liar... I am 100% saying Tony and RAI corporate LIED. I do not treat my customers this way and do not appreciate the treatment. I would suggest, since you where not involved in the deception and come on later in the game, you quit commenting on it.. Stick to what you do know about, which sounds like an honest sales pitch.
RAI needs to make it right with each store that promises where made to, this is not your responsibility. May I suggest that you use some empathy and agree with the store owners, that being manipulated and lied to is certainly not good business practices. I see you are offering to help, please post or PM your "direct" link, so I can get an idea of what is working in your area.
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QUOTE: Malibu tan; PM me and I will send you a link to my site that has some good marketing info on it.


HOT, what is your "link" .. you are the only one offering help.

Instead of being an area REP, you should be the National Sales Manager so we can all get some help.
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Old 02-14-2006, 09:33 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Instead of being an area REP, you should be the National Sales Manager so we can all get some help.
Tell me about it! Personaly, I would rahter be a national marketing manager for RAI.

Sorry if I sound harsh, but when I am speaking on that matter (National PR), I am NOT speaking as a rep for RAI, but as a Lumiere owner. [I got stuck too, I just chose to take things into my own hands]

As per your request, I shall speak on that matter no more.

I need a persons E-mail addy so I can send an invitation to my private forum. But it is a forum to share ideas and to post what did and did not work so we can all learn from each other. I do not allow B****ing, because that gets nowhere. My forum is for improving your Lumiere business.

Mr. B, If RAI paid me to sit around and help people improve their business all day, then I would. But JUST FOR YOU, I will try to find some time to put together some bullitt points for everyone.
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Old 02-14-2006, 09:41 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Thanks Tom. You're an officer and a gentleman. I appreciate your honesty and willingness to help others (I know you're not really doing it just for me.). -Belvy
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Wow! This is exactly what I was after. Some real response to a situation that a lot of salons have been sucked in to, but just aren't talking about. So....what are we going to do about it? Tom, you are doing great with lumiere I think that's comendable since you did it with no help from the company who sold it to you. I am all bout lumiere in my salon. I talk it up to as many people as I can every day. But why should people in my small mid west town believe that I have a machine like this that the movie stars are supposed to be using , but they have never seen it on TV, Heard about it on the news, or read about it in any of the magazines that promote things like this. Other units are all over the magazines that RAI claims don't hold a candle to lumiere. People believer what ever they are exposed to on the talk shows and national news shows. Even info merchals. We aren't asking you to defend RAI anymore Tom. We want RAI to get on here and defend themselves. They were all about helping tanning salons two years ago. Well, we need help now (thanks to them) so where are they? Again I ask......What are we going to about this ?????? Maybe we should all ban togetheer and hire an attorny....................

I'll private youre personal help Tom.........Keep up the good work in Ft. Wayne

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Old 02-15-2006, 12:03 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Third page of Hot Topics?! After an entire working day?! ~Pity~ Listen folks, this is going to go the way of spray tanning for all of us; it's inevitable. Or, it is going to die a quick death like the cure for cancer did. But that's another topic. Allow me to bottom-line some things for everyone on this matter (I know we all hate long posts, and I generally refrain from anything "serious" in my posts about this industry. As you know, I generally leave the serious guessing to others and just crack you up, and sometimes, hopefully, I make you think a little).

1. The system really works the way the way they say it does
2. Consumers that have used it have seen and raved about their results
3. It is a cost-comparative alternative to the expensive, sometimes painful, and always inconvenient methods that are better known to the consumers
4. It is not opposed by the "accepted" medical community
5. It is not regualted by the AMA, FDA, or PTA
6. Unfortuantely, it is not known by consuming public (which Tony of RAI promised would happen if we bought)
7. Unfortunately, it has not been the "end of slow season", which Tony of RAI promised it would be
8. Unfortunately, the service from RAI has sucked (Tony of RAI never promised that)
9. Unfortunately, RAI has reneged on the promises that we primarily based our decision to buy on
10. Fortunately, others are taking notice now

Let's dispense with the pleasantries and secretiveness, and get down to the business at hand.
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Old 02-15-2006, 08:27 AM   #48 (permalink)
 
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Re: Lumiere (Anyone making money?)

Ok Belvy, SERIOUSLY do you own a lumiere, if so have you used it, if so how is it for your salon?
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Good Idea Belvy.

I can't believe we haven't had one post raving about how much money they are making with lumiere and how they are so happy with Raymond Anthony International and their support after the sale. Please, lets hear from a salon that is at least making their payments, covering their advertising, are just happy to spend there time promoting lumiere (which did not eliminate their slow season) and glad that it gives them something to do in their spare time.
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http://tantalk.com/open-forum/2355375-rai-news.html

We Do work hard to get hits in the media, we have just had "no so good" of luck getting into the National media. 5 more like this one in the last 30 days.

Thanks Matt for podting this.
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