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Old 08-23-2006, 03:38 PM   #151 (permalink)
 
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I agree with you, TJ. I've often wondered if RAI had it to do over again if they would have started their Lumiere sales through a different channel. This is a very different mindset for the typical tanning salon owner, and from what I've read here most people (myself included) underestimated the marketing task to educate customers and introduce them to a totally new tewchnology like this.

But as a business owner, isn't this what it's all about, solving problems? The satisfaction of making things work? This is why people like you and I are out here working our asses off, as we listen to people around us who work for someone else but feel free to tell us what we're doing wrong and why it won't work. I have so much respect for entreprenuers and small business owners. It takes balls (OK, ovaries too) to do what we do.

I love the challenge of creating a new revenue stream out of thin air...and having customers who thank you for introducing them to the new service.

I'm just as disappointed as the rest of you that the national marketing program that was supposed to happen, didn't. But what am I supposed to do, complain and wait for someone else to do something, or suck it up and take responsibility for my own salon and make things happen, with or without a national marketing and PR effort?

How many of you have taken the time to speak with the new PR firm out of San Diego that RAI has retained to get things moving again (Esche & Alexander)? I have, at length. Did any of you know that RAI had hired a new PR firm?

I am NOT here as a RAI cheerleader. I am here as a salon owner willing to tell you what's worked for me and what hasn't, to try and give a hand just like Tom did for me when I first came to this board back in March looking for advice and insight from other salon owners.

I believe in the Lumiere technology 100% and my team now sells with conviction and confidence (it wasn't that way when we began though). That's why I offer a 100% money back guarantee; it that takes ALL the pressure off a customer if they want to try the service.

If I hadn't done my own homework on the technology I wouldn'y have brought it into my salon. If you don't have 100% confidence in the machine, get rid of it because the customer will smell your doubt a mile away.

But my main point is simply that you have to be flexable, you have to be ready and willing to adapt your marketing strategy as you get feedback from your customers.

The Lumiere VIP membership was a response to our initial Lumiere marketing results. When Tom mentioned his $99 dowm $79/mo EFT program it was a perfect fit for our salon and our existing EFT philosophy. I wish I was smart enough to have thought of it myself but I wasn't, it was help I got from someone on this board.

The difference from the person that questioned my honestly is that I took Tom's advice and made a committment to give it a 100% effort, rather then call Tom an RAI lackey.

If you think reviewing one of what my employees call my 'email novels' that I've used to educate my customers on Lumiere would be useful, let me know and I'll post or send it to you privately as it is typically thre or four pages.

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Old 08-23-2006, 04:16 PM   #152 (permalink)
 
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Ric, you are doing almost the same EFT we are, plus your concept is very similar.
I would imagine so my friend, you gave me the concept back in February! I just took your framework, massaged it a little to fit my specific circumstances, and ran with it.

I should have gotten in touch with you to thank you a long time ago.

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Old 08-23-2006, 05:35 PM   #153 (permalink)
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Old 08-31-2006, 06:53 AM   #154 (permalink)
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How many of you have taken the time to speak with the new PR firm out of San Diego that RAI has retained to get things moving again (Esche & Alexander)? I have, at length. Did any of you know that RAI had hired a new PR firm?

Hi Ric,
I never did address this part of your post. I kind of remember Tom saying something about a new PR firm several months ago but I never heard anything from RAI about it. Don't you think they could have contacted all of us early buyers who they know are so unhappy and let us know that they were trying to do something for us. What have they done?
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  • August 31st,2006 8:00 A.M.
  • Zip=80920
  • Within 60 mile radius of Colorado Springs, CO
Lumière is currently not available in your immediate area. Please have your local salon or spa contact us at info@pathwaytobeauty.com to inquire about bringing Lumière to a location near you.

Hmmmmm...................
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thanks for sharing your experience! We haven't had as much luck with ours, but I'm still looking for different ways to get people using it! Do you still do the 20 min sessions, I've heard some people are doing 30 min? I would love to see one of your email novels, i need to start and email club, I should of a long time ago!
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The machine won't run longer than 20 minutes .........unless they've changed it.
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thanks for sharing your experience! We haven't had as much luck with ours, but I'm still looking for different ways to get people using it! Do you still do the 20 min sessions, I've heard some people are doing 30 min? I would love to see one of your email novels, i need to start and email club, I should of a long time ago!
I'd be happy to. Send me an e-mail at ric@ssatlantis.com I'll send you a copy of a recent e-mail broadcast that I sent out to our customers about our Lumiere.

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I never did address this part of your post. I kind of remember Tom saying something about a new PR firm several months ago but I never heard anything from RAI about it. Don't you think they could have contacted all of us early buyers who they know are so unhappy and let us know that they were trying to do something for us. What have they done?
Hi TJ,

I've spoken with Alex (head of new PR firm) on a couple of occassions now to see what his plans were for both national publicity and to see if he could give me a hand with my local PR.

Three weeks ago we started sending out a local press release that his firm wrote and are following up one-on-one with the local press to try and get some coverage. Next we're going to try inviting a local female media personality to do a Lumiere regime for free in return for a story on her local TV station.

So far no luck in getting any ink but like the Lumiere sales cycle, I'm willing to invest a few months to try and develop relationships with our local media people that will hopefully pay off for us down the road.

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I've spoken with Alex (head of new PR firm) on a couple of occassions now to see what his plans were for both national publicity........................................ ............

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