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Gene · 12-15-2003, 07:24 PM

OK, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on smallish 5 oz bottles for $19.50 (I remember when Cal Tan sold a full size high end Tropical Exposure for 20 bucks?) But Cal Tan's ZOE has to be kidding with their .25 oz packets. .25oz?? Consider: 1 oz used to be the norm. Then it went to .75 oz and it has stabilized in recent years to .67 oz. I'd set .5 as the absolute lowest amount that will lube an average body. When I used a ZOE packet today I ran out half way through. It LOOKS like a full size packet but when you rip it open (which isn't easy without a tear point) and pear inside there's more air than lotion by a long shot. Unless these are teasers (I got mine in those packet purses), I expect a tough sell for ZOE packets especially when the competition (Swanky Girl) gives a full one ounce in their packets.

Neon Beach · 12-16-2003, 08:29 AM

Not much of a sample for sure. I gave up on pre-prackaged samples long ago. Now I use sample cups w/lids and make samples from full-sized bottles. I've found it cheaper for me in the long run. Even cheaper if you have access to 64 oz. or 1 gallon jugs to sample out.

BAHAMA MAMAS · 12-16-2003, 12:10 PM

I agree~ I sold a packet purse to a girl Who mentioned all the above!

engfant · 12-16-2003, 10:46 PM

So what's the word on the streets with this stuff? Which ones are good? Don't know to go with Zoe GIrl or Swanky Girl by Synergy.

BAHAMA MAMAS · 12-17-2003, 08:47 AM

I have not sold swanky in my salon but it has to sell better then Zoe has..........................

ALOHATANCA · 12-17-2003, 03:33 PM

I might try Zoe Girl anly because I have alot of teens and the high school is only a couple of blocks away...so they will be the target ...

pam · 12-17-2003, 05:23 PM

Zoe isn't moving too good for us but our teens haven't really started coming in yet. Girls who are used to stronger tingles and have bought Zoe are disappointed. Guess I'll wait and see!

Pam

tcn813 · 12-26-2003, 03:54 PM

I think the Zoe packets are intentionally small to encourage the whole layering concept. You are not supposed to use each of the packeta for an individual tanning session. In theory, you would use all three tanning products at once and then use the moisturizer later. That's how we are explaining them to customers.

yoco · 12-26-2003, 10:02 PM

I was selling the bottles of the Zoe, mostly stretching the truth (bronzer) and it seems to be going pretty good for my area. The samples on the hand.. haven't sold any of them. I am assuming the price is the reason for the sales. I haven't tried Swanky yet.

TAN4LESS · 12-27-2003, 11:33 AM

I've had Zoe since the middle of November on the front counter marked @ 18.95 and haven't sold 1. It may be to cutsie for serious tanners who want results. Even if it is good stuff, it may not look like a real serious product. Maybe it will sell at prom time. I don't think I will ever order it again tho.

12-15-2003, 07:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gene Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Dec 8 2000 Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	OK, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on smallish 5 oz bottles for $19.50 (I remember when Cal Tan sold a full size high end Tropical Exposure for 20 bucks?) But Cal Tan's ZOE has to be kidding with their .25 oz packets. .25oz?? Consider: 1 oz used to be the norm. Then it went to .75 oz and it has stabilized in recent years to .67 oz. I'd set .5 as the absolute lowest amount that will lube an average body. When I used a ZOE packet today I ran out half way through. It LOOKS like a full size packet but when you rip it open (which isn't easy without a tear point) and pear inside there's more air than lotion by a long shot. Unless these are teasers (I got mine in those packet purses), I expect a tough sell for ZOE packets especially when the competition (Swanky Girl) gives a full one ounce in their packets.

12-16-2003, 08:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	Not much of a sample for sure. I gave up on pre-prackaged samples long ago. Now I use sample cups w/lids and make samples from full-sized bottles. I've found it cheaper for me in the long run. Even cheaper if you have access to 64 oz. or 1 gallon jugs to sample out.

12-16-2003, 12:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
BAHAMA MAMAS Join Date: Aug 2 2003 Location: UTAH Posts: 577 Rep Power: 21	I agree~ I sold a packet purse to a girl Who mentioned all the above!

12-16-2003, 10:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
engfant Join Date: May 20 2003 Posts: 9,301 Rep Power: 29	So what's the word on the streets with this stuff? Which ones are good? Don't know to go with Zoe GIrl or Swanky Girl by Synergy.

12-17-2003, 08:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
BAHAMA MAMAS Join Date: Aug 2 2003 Location: UTAH Posts: 577 Rep Power: 21	I have not sold swanky in my salon but it has to sell better then Zoe has..........................

12-17-2003, 03:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
ALOHATANCA Tan Talk Industry Pro member Join Date: Nov 14 2003 Location: CALIFORNIA Age: 65 Posts: 3,455 Rep Power: 24	I might try Zoe Girl anly because I have alot of teens and the high school is only a couple of blocks away...so they will be the target ...

12-17-2003, 05:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
pam I'm Banned Join Date: Oct 29 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,893 Rep Power: 0	Zoe isn't moving too good for us but our teens haven't really started coming in yet. Girls who are used to stronger tingles and have bought Zoe are disappointed. Guess I'll wait and see! Pam

12-26-2003, 10:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
yoco Join Date: Jul 22 2003 Posts: 245 Rep Power: 21	I was selling the bottles of the Zoe, mostly stretching the truth (bronzer) and it seems to be going pretty good for my area. The samples on the hand.. haven't sold any of them. I am assuming the price is the reason for the sales. I haven't tried Swanky yet.

12-27-2003, 11:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
TAN4LESS Join Date: Nov 8 2003 Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	I've had Zoe since the middle of November on the front counter marked @ 18.95 and haven't sold 1. It may be to cutsie for serious tanners who want results. Even if it is good stuff, it may not look like a real serious product. Maybe it will sell at prom time. I don't think I will ever order it again tho.

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