Hope in a TUBE!!!!

fungirlz · 11-19-2002, 08:51 AM

“Hope in a tube” is a topic we are going to begin today.. If you’d like to discuss it..
This is what it will be about..

This topic thread will discuss products we use and recommend to our guests for the results..
We won’t really be discussing a particular brand of lotion or product per say, rather we will discuss the different ingredients in the lotions and crèmes and begin to discover what we are talking about when we tell our guests… the facts of what’s in the tube .

Remember lotions and crèmes with out the human skin have no purpose. Their value is only fully understood with-in the frame work of our skin.. Not one product can meet every single persons needs that is why it is important for you to understand how the ingredients work and what type of skin you or your guest has to determine which lotions or crèmes will give the best results..

It is important for us to understand how the products performs on the skin, what kind of problems can the product solve… Remember the tanning lotions and crèmes are in the “cosmetic family”.. they are not classified as pharmaceuticals and they are not subject to FDA safety requirements.. SPFs are different so we will not discuss them in this topic rather wait for another thread for that one.. OK?

To make this simple for us.. we will first define cosmetic products as being those products that remain on the surface of the skin.. they are those products that penetrate the cornrum layer or (the top layer).. and in a few case the epidermal tissue but they NEVER reach the dermis and are not absorbed by the capillaries located in our 2nd layer.

Again to make this simple for us.. let us know that these such products are designed for the “beautification of our skin.. and not one of them are making any drug related claim..there-for neither should we be making any such claims to ourselves or our guests we serve..

Well.. should we discuss this subject?

Hope in a TUBE!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me know and we can begin……

C

Carla Plazas · 11-19-2002, 11:28 AM

I'm interested in this.

BooBop · 11-19-2002, 11:57 AM

Of course we should girl. The more we know and understand the better we can sell our clients.

BronzeBabe · 11-19-2002, 05:10 PM

Oh this sounds great...lets get started soon

Christina

Formulated Solutions · 11-19-2002, 06:44 PM

Chris,

Can I Play?

With out a doubt #1 on my list is also #1 when it comes to vitamins that I take internally.

Not really one ingredient but a class of ingredients...Namely Anti-Oxidants.... I think we are going to be hearing more and more about their function in lots of metabolic pathways and there importance in combating free radical oxidation.

The term Free Radical Oxidation is a generalized term used to describe an atom or molecule that has a reactive unbalanced number of valance electrons. Free Radicals are constantly attacking and waging havoc on our healthy cells, attempting to regain electrochemical stability. Free Radical Oxidation, a process by which Free Radicals rip electrons from normal molecules or cells, is one of the main reasons our cells are degraded and damaged over time, and Free Radicals become present in our bodies thorough both natural internal processes and external environmental influences.

UV-Induced Oxidation creates basically the same type of instability in atoms or molecules, as does a free radical, and certainly has the potential to create other free radicals, however is unique in the fact that the electronic instability is solely caused by the UV exposure.

When we use anti-oxidants in products, the list being almost endless of different forms of anti-oxidants, we are working toward the “scavenging” of free radicals within the skin, both naturally occurring and free radicals caused by the exposure to UV. This is a good thing and works to protect the skin.

Ok, so then why use these in Tanning products, if everyone says the tanning is also a form of oxidation?

Remember the Tan that we get from UV is (in simplified terms) is like a two-step process (not in any order)
The direct oxidation of melanin or (tanning) also known as the Meirowsky phenomenon, in which you are getting the immediate pigment darkening of the Eumelain already present with in the skin. This oxidation caused by the direct UV exposure is anti-oxidant independent, and the long chain rod like Eumelain polymer darkens, even in the presence of high concentration of anti-oxidants. (Has more to do with the wavelength of light being absorbed by the molecule.) Pheomelanin is not stable under the same wavelengths of UV and tends to decompose.

So as you know tanning is a controlled process, and with out the continual production of new melanin, via UV stimulation or faculatative production, we (meaning our industry) would be one hit wonders, and out of business. UV stimulates the production of new melanin, (thank-fully I might add), via several UV-induced pathways, (important note, not all of which create Free Radicals, and some of the pathways are also anti-oxidant independent. Which is what after reading above you know we are attempting to scavenge, with the anti-oxidants). Thus the process, while a form of oxidation, is not completely anti-oxidant sensitive.

That being said, the positive benefits of anti-oxidants found in quality skin care and tanning products is far too important to improving the overall quality of the skin and that is why all of the better products that you find incorporate and proudly advertise the fact they contain anti-oxidants.

There are other ingredients that fall on the "hope in a bottle" list but for my dollar, give me the anti-oxidants.

BooBop · 11-19-2002, 07:21 PM

Wow, Thanks Eric. I am enjoying these great educational post in SkinCare

BronzeBabe · 11-19-2002, 07:25 PM

Me Too! Me Too! I love it when I learn new things...
This is great

Christina

Meltdbutta · 11-19-2002, 10:23 PM

Question...???

Do Vitamins A, E, and pro-vitamin B5 (when applied topically) have the Anti-oxidants, or, in fact are they Anti-oxidants?

These specific ingredients are in Neutrogena's Multi Vitamin acne treatment, along with a 1.5 % of salicylic acid...

Is it safe to use this product at night, after tanning?

thankyou

melty

fungirlz · 11-19-2002, 11:47 PM

Eric...Shhooooooooooooot........... fella you blow my mind........... ..... WOW weeeeeee......
but me loves ya..........

I am recovering from the poopooty e-mails regarding the Nasville Pictures.. let me get me poopoo together and respond in a bit..
C

E......Know you are my forever buddy.and you STILL BLOW MY MIND.........
C

_________________
Christine'
TanCun Bound Come Dance With Me[ This Message was edited by: fungirlz on 2002-11-20 07:38 ]

fungirlz · 11-19-2002, 11:49 PM

ps I never said poopootey............. posts.. I said poopooty... (which won't show up here..)
But............for the record..I never ever said Poo Poopidyty........

_________________
Christine'
TanCun Bound Come Dance With Me[ This Message was edited by: fungirlz on 2002-11-19 22:50 ]

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11-19-2002, 08:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
fungirlz Join Date: Jan 17 2002 Posts: 4,753 Rep Power: 8	“Hope in a tube” is a topic we are going to begin today.. If you’d like to discuss it.. This is what it will be about.. This topic thread will discuss products we use and recommend to our guests for the results.. We won’t really be discussing a particular brand of lotion or product per say, rather we will discuss the different ingredients in the lotions and crèmes and begin to discover what we are talking about when we tell our guests… the facts of what’s in the tube . Remember lotions and crèmes with out the human skin have no purpose. Their value is only fully understood with-in the frame work of our skin.. Not one product can meet every single persons needs that is why it is important for you to understand how the ingredients work and what type of skin you or your guest has to determine which lotions or crèmes will give the best results.. It is important for us to understand how the products performs on the skin, what kind of problems can the product solve… Remember the tanning lotions and crèmes are in the “cosmetic family”.. they are not classified as pharmaceuticals and they are not subject to FDA safety requirements.. SPFs are different so we will not discuss them in this topic rather wait for another thread for that one.. OK? To make this simple for us.. we will first define cosmetic products as being those products that remain on the surface of the skin.. they are those products that penetrate the cornrum layer or (the top layer).. and in a few case the epidermal tissue but they NEVER reach the dermis and are not absorbed by the capillaries located in our 2nd layer. Again to make this simple for us.. let us know that these such products are designed for the “beautification of our skin.. and not one of them are making any drug related claim..there-for neither should we be making any such claims to ourselves or our guests we serve.. Well.. should we discuss this subject? Hope in a TUBE!!!!!!!!!!! Let me know and we can begin…… C

11-19-2002, 11:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
Carla Plazas Join Date: Feb 14 2002 Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	I'm interested in this.

11-19-2002, 11:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
BooBop I love Derf!! Join Date: Apr 5 2001 Posts: 9,497 Rep Power: 13	Of course we should girl. The more we know and understand the better we can sell our clients.

11-19-2002, 05:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
BronzeBabe Join Date: May 6 2001 Posts: 2,357 Rep Power: 8	Oh this sounds great...lets get started soon Christina

11-19-2002, 06:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Formulated Solutions Join Date: Oct 8 2001 Posts: 150 Rep Power: 8	Chris, Can I Play? With out a doubt #1 on my list is also #1 when it comes to vitamins that I take internally. Not really one ingredient but a class of ingredients...Namely Anti-Oxidants.... I think we are going to be hearing more and more about their function in lots of metabolic pathways and there importance in combating free radical oxidation. The term Free Radical Oxidation is a generalized term used to describe an atom or molecule that has a reactive unbalanced number of valance electrons. Free Radicals are constantly attacking and waging havoc on our healthy cells, attempting to regain electrochemical stability. Free Radical Oxidation, a process by which Free Radicals rip electrons from normal molecules or cells, is one of the main reasons our cells are degraded and damaged over time, and Free Radicals become present in our bodies thorough both natural internal processes and external environmental influences. UV-Induced Oxidation creates basically the same type of instability in atoms or molecules, as does a free radical, and certainly has the potential to create other free radicals, however is unique in the fact that the electronic instability is solely caused by the UV exposure. When we use anti-oxidants in products, the list being almost endless of different forms of anti-oxidants, we are working toward the “scavenging” of free radicals within the skin, both naturally occurring and free radicals caused by the exposure to UV. This is a good thing and works to protect the skin. Ok, so then why use these in Tanning products, if everyone says the tanning is also a form of oxidation? Remember the Tan that we get from UV is (in simplified terms) is like a two-step process (not in any order) The direct oxidation of melanin or (tanning) also known as the Meirowsky phenomenon, in which you are getting the immediate pigment darkening of the Eumelain already present with in the skin. This oxidation caused by the direct UV exposure is anti-oxidant independent, and the long chain rod like Eumelain polymer darkens, even in the presence of high concentration of anti-oxidants. (Has more to do with the wavelength of light being absorbed by the molecule.) Pheomelanin is not stable under the same wavelengths of UV and tends to decompose. So as you know tanning is a controlled process, and with out the continual production of new melanin, via UV stimulation or faculatative production, we (meaning our industry) would be one hit wonders, and out of business. UV stimulates the production of new melanin, (thank-fully I might add), via several UV-induced pathways, (important note, not all of which create Free Radicals, and some of the pathways are also anti-oxidant independent. Which is what after reading above you know we are attempting to scavenge, with the anti-oxidants). Thus the process, while a form of oxidation, is not completely anti-oxidant sensitive. That being said, the positive benefits of anti-oxidants found in quality skin care and tanning products is far too important to improving the overall quality of the skin and that is why all of the better products that you find incorporate and proudly advertise the fact they contain anti-oxidants. There are other ingredients that fall on the "hope in a bottle" list but for my dollar, give me the anti-oxidants.

11-19-2002, 07:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
BooBop I love Derf!! Join Date: Apr 5 2001 Posts: 9,497 Rep Power: 13	Wow, Thanks Eric. I am enjoying these great educational post in SkinCare

11-19-2002, 07:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
BronzeBabe Join Date: May 6 2001 Posts: 2,357 Rep Power: 8	Me Too! Me Too! I love it when I learn new things... This is great Christina

11-19-2002, 10:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Meltdbutta Join Date: Feb 10 2002 Posts: 1,267 Rep Power: 7	Question...??? Do Vitamins A, E, and pro-vitamin B5 (when applied topically) have the Anti-oxidants, or, in fact are they Anti-oxidants? These specific ingredients are in Neutrogena's Multi Vitamin acne treatment, along with a 1.5 % of salicylic acid... Is it safe to use this product at night, after tanning? thankyou melty

11-19-2002, 11:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
fungirlz Join Date: Jan 17 2002 Posts: 4,753 Rep Power: 8	Eric...Shhooooooooooooot........... fella you blow my mind........... ..... WOW weeeeeee...... but me loves ya.......... I am recovering from the poopooty e-mails regarding the Nasville Pictures.. let me get me poopoo together and respond in a bit.. C E......Know you are my forever buddy.and you STILL BLOW MY MIND......... C _________________ Christine' TanCun Bound Come Dance With Me[ This Message was edited by: fungirlz on 2002-11-20 07:38 ]

11-19-2002, 11:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
fungirlz Join Date: Jan 17 2002 Posts: 4,753 Rep Power: 8	ps I never said poopootey............. posts.. I said poopooty... (which won't show up here..) But............for the record..I never ever said Poo Poopidyty........ _________________ Christine' TanCun Bound Come Dance With Me[ This Message was edited by: fungirlz on 2002-11-19 22:50 ]

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