water in lotion - tanTALK

mcspadden · 06-01-2002, 11:52 PM

This is a new one on me!!!Please don't think "GOSH WHAT AN IDIOT(sp)" Anyone's help would be wonderful!! A customer called and said that a friend of her's who works at a salon and has been to training said that if she used a tanning lotion with water in it she would not get a good tan. Now I have been to several trainings and this is a new one on me. I feel that you have to have water as an ingredient in order to have a lotion. I told my customer that I would love to know what lotions her friend sells that does not have water in it. I sell lines that I am confident are wonderful products(JA, CalTan, EmBay, Designer skin and Glimera) and they all have water in them!!! Am I correct in this issue or still learning?

fungirlz · 06-02-2002, 09:20 AM

Dear Liz.. please get more information on this as to who held the training class.. what was the product line the trainer was training on..
I will work on this end through DR.Pierce from Caltan and Eric and JA.
Please find out where the training was held and who held it.

I am with you .. I have never heard of this before..and I've been at this quite awhile now..

Thanks..
Chris

Don Smith · 06-02-2002, 10:55 AM

Liz:

Someone either wasn't paying attention in class OR the class was taught by an idiot who didn't know what he/she was talking about!

First of all, ANY good lotion will help to "rehydrate" the stratum corneum (the "dead cell" outer covering) level of the skin and that alone will increase the "transmission" of UVR through the skin by 30 - 40%.

In addition, taking a shower (or spraying water on the skin) before tanning has been shown to "enhance" the tanning process.

Thus, Liz, the "water" (usually deionized and double distilled) found in ALL tanning lotions serves a valid and valuable purpose.

Don "Keeping YOU Informed" Smith

mcspadden · 06-02-2002, 03:57 PM

Thanks for the reassurance(sp). I was pretty certain that I had never heard this before and y'all have helped confirm that!!!!!!!!

fungirlz · 06-04-2002, 07:59 AM

Once again... Don Smith tells us like it is..
Don is the best..
When I read this post.. I pmed Don.. and said..
I have never heard this... he came right away to answer this.. Isn't he great!!!
WE LOVE YOU DON!!!

fungirlz · 06-04-2002, 06:00 PM

Received this when I checked my e-mails this evening..
Thanks very much Bill...
C

Subj: Water in lotions
Date: 6/4/2002 6:11:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: bmease@johnabate.com
To: immommy@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Hi,

My name is Bill Mease, the formulation chemist with John Abate and have been
given your address by Frank Abate.

In reference to the post on Tan Talk, you were questioned regarding water
content of lotions and the deleterious effect it supposedly has on the
tanning mechanism.
I will be happy to discuss this further if you have any more questions, but
in short this is completely false.

Cordially,
Bill Mease

fungirlz · 06-04-2002, 06:01 PM

Shall we ask Bill to join us here for discussion on water in lotions????
We can!!! He is willing to discuss products.. let's go for it!!
Who says yes???
C

BooBop · 06-07-2002, 12:53 PM

Of course Chris, get him to participate with us! What better than to have a chemist on board????

fungirlz · 06-09-2002, 09:43 AM

Remember.. Eric is a chemist also..
I think its so fun to get into whats in a product..and why its there..

I'll invite him this week to join us..
Lets get some questions prepared for Eric and JAs chemist..

C

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06-01-2002, 11:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
mcspadden Join Date: Jan 29 2002 Posts: 65 Rep Power: 0	This is a new one on me!!!Please don't think "GOSH WHAT AN IDIOT(sp)" Anyone's help would be wonderful!! A customer called and said that a friend of her's who works at a salon and has been to training said that if she used a tanning lotion with water in it she would not get a good tan. Now I have been to several trainings and this is a new one on me. I feel that you have to have water as an ingredient in order to have a lotion. I told my customer that I would love to know what lotions her friend sells that does not have water in it. I sell lines that I am confident are wonderful products(JA, CalTan, EmBay, Designer skin and Glimera) and they all have water in them!!! Am I correct in this issue or still learning?

06-02-2002, 09:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
fungirlz Join Date: Jan 17 2002 Posts: 4,339 Rep Power: 24	Dear Liz.. please get more information on this as to who held the training class.. what was the product line the trainer was training on.. I will work on this end through DR.Pierce from Caltan and Eric and JA. Please find out where the training was held and who held it. I am with you .. I have never heard of this before..and I've been at this quite awhile now.. Thanks.. Chris

06-02-2002, 10:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
Don Smith Join Date: Feb 25 2000 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,643 Rep Power: 26	Liz: Someone either wasn't paying attention in class OR the class was taught by an idiot who didn't know what he/she was talking about! First of all, ANY good lotion will help to "rehydrate" the stratum corneum (the "dead cell" outer covering) level of the skin and that alone will increase the "transmission" of UVR through the skin by 30 - 40%. In addition, taking a shower (or spraying water on the skin) before tanning has been shown to "enhance" the tanning process. Thus, Liz, the "water" (usually deionized and double distilled) found in ALL tanning lotions serves a valid and valuable purpose. Don "Keeping YOU Informed" Smith

06-02-2002, 03:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
mcspadden Join Date: Jan 29 2002 Posts: 65 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the reassurance(sp). I was pretty certain that I had never heard this before and y'all have helped confirm that!!!!!!!!

06-04-2002, 07:59 AM	#5 (permalink)
fungirlz Join Date: Jan 17 2002 Posts: 4,339 Rep Power: 24	Once again... Don Smith tells us like it is.. Don is the best.. When I read this post.. I pmed Don.. and said.. I have never heard this... he came right away to answer this.. Isn't he great!!! WE LOVE YOU DON!!!

06-04-2002, 06:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
fungirlz Join Date: Jan 17 2002 Posts: 4,339 Rep Power: 24	Received this when I checked my e-mails this evening.. Thanks very much Bill... C Subj: Water in lotions Date: 6/4/2002 6:11:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: bmease@johnabate.com To: immommy@aol.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Hi, My name is Bill Mease, the formulation chemist with John Abate and have been given your address by Frank Abate. In reference to the post on Tan Talk, you were questioned regarding water content of lotions and the deleterious effect it supposedly has on the tanning mechanism. I will be happy to discuss this further if you have any more questions, but in short this is completely false. Cordially, Bill Mease

06-04-2002, 06:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
fungirlz Join Date: Jan 17 2002 Posts: 4,339 Rep Power: 24	Shall we ask Bill to join us here for discussion on water in lotions???? We can!!! He is willing to discuss products.. let's go for it!! Who says yes??? C

06-07-2002, 12:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
BooBop I love Derf!! Join Date: Apr 5 2001 Age: 66 Posts: 7,766 Rep Power: 28	Of course Chris, get him to participate with us! What better than to have a chemist on board????

06-09-2002, 09:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
fungirlz Join Date: Jan 17 2002 Posts: 4,339 Rep Power: 24	Remember.. Eric is a chemist also.. I think its so fun to get into whats in a product..and why its there.. I'll invite him this week to join us.. Lets get some questions prepared for Eric and JAs chemist.. C

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