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megatanman · 09-22-2008, 07:31 PM

Go to a gun show and you will see a few things,first you come across a table with an AR-15,on the next table is manuels on how to convert semi auto assult rifles and the last table has the parts needed to do the job.

This is a domestic terrorists paradise,its the reason I no longer participate.They are totally unregulated anymore.

solarmeter · 09-22-2008, 07:37 PM

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So ,in a nutshell,The big corporations(republicans) took advantage of weak legislation passed by democrats,made a ton of money and in turn destroyed the integrity of our banking system?

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Its one thing if your a gun buff and are looking to add a piece to your collection.
Its different when your a redneck and are trying to start your own militia.Most of them had an I.Q of about 60

Like i said Jim,i believe in the right to bear arms,but assult rifles are the exception

There is some truth in the above.... BUT "rednecks" (Eggs term) do not start riots or do school shootings. Your mis-trust is mis-guided. Southern boys protect their own. They do NOT go shooting up NASCAR races or terrorizing people.

megatanman · 09-22-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by solarmeter

There is some truth in the above.... BUT "rednecks" (Eggs term) do not start riots or do school shootings. Your mis-trust is mis-guided. Southern boys protect their own. They do NOT go shooting up NASCAR races or terrorizing people.

Your right,but they always end up in the wrong hands.

Just like unlimited tanning,theirs users and abusers,but the only way to eliminate it,cut it out all together.

Ezliving_Jim · 09-22-2008, 08:02 PM

Not everyone is as learned as megatanman about the old assault weapons ban: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfKADcfE90U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbIIjIFKYYg

In the second video, (at around the 9.5 minute mark) the LAPD disagrees with your belief that semi-automatic rifles are easily and often converted to fully automatic. I am inclined to take the word of the LAPD in this disagreement. "Never" is a pretty solid statistic.

solarmeter · 09-22-2008, 08:13 PM

If there's one thing we seem to all agree on.... it's that assault weapons (and their parts at gun shows) should be banned. Easier said than done... but necessary.

Shooting a moose for dinner? Nah. Protecting a Carribou from the warmth of an oil pipeline? Nah.

megatanman · 09-22-2008, 08:31 PM

You can buy those mini handguns for under 100 bucks Jim and if you drop them on the ground,the pot metal receivers literally crumble.
We called those throw away guns,I think you get the picture.

I don't think its right to classify a handgun into that category,but I don't make the laws,I just follow them.

Theres a big difference in a 45 round pre-ban clip vs a standard 10 rd clip Jim, considering the fire rate of an AR is about 800 rds per minute(13 a second),that equates to about 26 more dead people before a reload is required.

You will never win this argument Jim.Assult rifle are made for just that assult.The Reps have attempted to categorize these under "sporting" category,which we all know is not sporting at all from an animals view point.

Jim,im glad you took the word of the LAPD vs. a seasoned machinist,FFL dealer and previous automatic weapon owner.
If people new how easy it was to convert one of these,everyone would run out and buy one just to have a machine gun.

Any Armalite,Stoner,colts and any stamped AK receivers can be converted.In submachine guns,Tec 9 and mac 11 cobrays are popular.Tommyguns or Thompsons have provisons that do not allow modifications since the new designs are nothing like the originals and parts do not interchange.

Don't take my advice Jim,go to a local show where the literature is located,you will be surprised what you find

megatanman · 09-22-2008, 08:42 PM

The majority of these weapons Jim are literally the same and use the same moving parts as their predecessors,thats why the conversion is so easy,especially AR-15 and AK.

Ezliving_Jim · 09-22-2008, 08:57 PM

The 1994 Assault Weapon Ban was a stupid law and it's good that it expired.

Interesting... all these converted automatics and no crimes committed with them. Amazing.

If Pelosi - Reid - Obama have their way, they will follow AU and UK and try to ban gun ownership. Remember, Heller was a 5-4 decision. Four SCOTUS Justices do not agree that the Bill Of Rights are individual rights. That is scary.

megatanman · 09-22-2008, 09:07 PM

Thats one thing that will never happen Jim,you know it,i know it,so its a waste of time for you to use as a political tool against Obama.

I think TJ said it best and he was by far the greatest founding father,i rank him over Franklin in my book.

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

engfant · 09-23-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezliving_Jim

So what, exactly, is an assault rifle? A scary black gun?

The reason for the 2nd amendment is to protect citizens from out-of-cortrol government. Self defense from criminals is icing on the cake.

Man, everything you stand for is anti-america. OUT OF ALL THE THINGS you could have said about the 2nd Amendment in it's defense you choose TO RISE AGAINST YOUR GOVERNMENT.

You defend people that have destroyed our economy, our relationship with the rest of the world and now you are ready for civil war.

Why are we arguing with this man?

09-22-2008, 07:31 PM	#31 (permalink)
megatanman I love Derf!! Join Date: Aug 17 2007 Location: Ohio Age: 48 Posts: 1,360 Rep Power: 17	Re: Why doesn't The US just buy AIG outright? Go to a gun show and you will see a few things,first you come across a table with an AR-15,on the next table is manuels on how to convert semi auto assult rifles and the last table has the parts needed to do the job. This is a domestic terrorists paradise,its the reason I no longer participate.They are totally unregulated anymore.

09-22-2008, 08:02 PM	#34 (permalink)
Ezliving_Jim I love Derf!! Join Date: Mar 12 2002 Location: Undisclosed Secure Location Posts: 2,636 Rep Power: 26	Re: Why doesn't The US just buy AIG outright? Not everyone is as learned as megatanman about the old assault weapons ban: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfKADcfE90U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbIIjIFKYYg In the second video, (at around the 9.5 minute mark) the LAPD disagrees with your belief that semi-automatic rifles are easily and often converted to fully automatic. I am inclined to take the word of the LAPD in this disagreement. "Never" is a pretty solid statistic. Last edited by Ezliving_Jim; 09-22-2008 at 08:22 PM.

09-22-2008, 08:13 PM	#35 (permalink)
solarmeter Join Date: Nov 13 2001 Location: MI Posts: 861 Rep Power: 23	Re: Why doesn't The US just buy AIG outright? If there's one thing we seem to all agree on.... it's that assault weapons (and their parts at gun shows) should be banned. Easier said than done... but necessary. Shooting a moose for dinner? Nah. Protecting a Carribou from the warmth of an oil pipeline? Nah. Last edited by solarmeter; 09-22-2008 at 08:20 PM.

09-22-2008, 08:31 PM	#36 (permalink)
megatanman I love Derf!! Join Date: Aug 17 2007 Location: Ohio Age: 48 Posts: 1,360 Rep Power: 17	Re: Why doesn't The US just buy AIG outright? You can buy those mini handguns for under 100 bucks Jim and if you drop them on the ground,the pot metal receivers literally crumble. We called those throw away guns,I think you get the picture. I don't think its right to classify a handgun into that category,but I don't make the laws,I just follow them. Theres a big difference in a 45 round pre-ban clip vs a standard 10 rd clip Jim, considering the fire rate of an AR is about 800 rds per minute(13 a second),that equates to about 26 more dead people before a reload is required. You will never win this argument Jim.Assult rifle are made for just that assult.The Reps have attempted to categorize these under "sporting" category,which we all know is not sporting at all from an animals view point. Jim,im glad you took the word of the LAPD vs. a seasoned machinist,FFL dealer and previous automatic weapon owner. If people new how easy it was to convert one of these,everyone would run out and buy one just to have a machine gun. Any Armalite,Stoner,colts and any stamped AK receivers can be converted.In submachine guns,Tec 9 and mac 11 cobrays are popular.Tommyguns or Thompsons have provisons that do not allow modifications since the new designs are nothing like the originals and parts do not interchange. Don't take my advice Jim,go to a local show where the literature is located,you will be surprised what you find

09-22-2008, 08:42 PM	#37 (permalink)
megatanman I love Derf!! Join Date: Aug 17 2007 Location: Ohio Age: 48 Posts: 1,360 Rep Power: 17	Re: Why doesn't The US just buy AIG outright? The majority of these weapons Jim are literally the same and use the same moving parts as their predecessors,thats why the conversion is so easy,especially AR-15 and AK.

09-22-2008, 08:57 PM	#38 (permalink)
Ezliving_Jim I love Derf!! Join Date: Mar 12 2002 Location: Undisclosed Secure Location Posts: 2,636 Rep Power: 26	Re: Why doesn't The US just buy AIG outright? The 1994 Assault Weapon Ban was a stupid law and it's good that it expired. Interesting... all these converted automatics and no crimes committed with them. Amazing. If Pelosi - Reid - Obama have their way, they will follow AU and UK and try to ban gun ownership. Remember, Heller was a 5-4 decision. Four SCOTUS Justices do not agree that the Bill Of Rights are individual rights. That is scary.

09-22-2008, 09:07 PM	#39 (permalink)
megatanman I love Derf!! Join Date: Aug 17 2007 Location: Ohio Age: 48 Posts: 1,360 Rep Power: 17	Re: Why doesn't The US just buy AIG outright? Thats one thing that will never happen Jim,you know it,i know it,so its a waste of time for you to use as a political tool against Obama. I think TJ said it best and he was by far the greatest founding father,i rank him over Franklin in my book. "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

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