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Old 07-10-2008, 12:31 AM   #351 (permalink)
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I wouldn't like to see it, personally. The truth always hurts, no matter who says it. Jackson is obviously hurt by the truth and just wants the boy to quit saying it, that's all. People got all upset with Cosby for the same thing, but I don't recall hearing any castration threats against him. It aint easy being right these days, is it? Poor Jesse. Remember his out-of-wedlock paternity scandal (or was it scandalS?)? One of the worst hypocrites in politics.
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:27 AM   #352 (permalink)
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At least Obama has a set, unlike McCain.
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At least Obama has a set, unlike McCain.
Now everyone can see you are just bullshieting. That's such a nonsensical ad hominem.

On other news: Obama's Flip-Flop Of The Day is his vote for FISA.

At least everytime he flip-flops, it seems his later position is usually the better one.

Still, Obama - No Vote For You!
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Straight to jail with ya! I can't wait to see all the SCUM that Bush hired to run the show GO TO PRISON OR OFF THEMSELVES LIKE THE "INNOCENTS" THEY ARE

Rove ignores subpoena, refuses to testify

By Ben Evans, Associated Press Writer | July 10, 2008
WASHINGTON --Former White House adviser Karl Rove defied a congressional subpoena and refused to testify Thursday about allegations of political pressure at the Justice Department, including whether he influenced the prosecution of a former Democratic governor of Alabama.

Rep. Linda Sanchez, chairman of a House subcommittee, ruled with backing from fellow Democrats on the panel that Rove was breaking the law by refusing to cooperate -- perhaps the first step toward holding him in contempt of Congress.

Lawmakers subpoenaed Rove in May in an effort to force him to talk about whether he played a role in prosecutors' decisions to pursue cases against Democrats, such as former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman, or in firing federal prosecutors considered disloyal to the Bush administration.

Rove had been scheduled to appear at the House Judiciary subcommittee hearing Thursday morning. A placard with his name sat in front of an empty chair at the witness table, with a handful of protesters behind it calling for Rove to be arrested.
A decision on whether to pursue contempt charges now goes to the full Judiciary Committee and ultimately to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

House Republicans called Thursday's proceedings a political stunt and said if Democrats truly wanted information they would take Rove up on an offer he made to discuss the matter informally.
The House already has voted to hold two of President Bush's confidants in contempt for failing to cooperate with its inquiry into whether the administration fired nine federal prosecutors in 2006 for political reasons.

The case, involving White House chief of staff Josh Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers, is in federal court and may not be resolved before Bush's term ends in January.
The White House has cited executive privilege, arguing that internal administration communications are confidential and that Congress cannot compel officials to testify.

Rove says he is bound to follow the White House's guidance, although he has offered to answer questions specifically on the Siegelman case -- but only with no transcript taken and not under oath.

Democrats have rejected the offer because the testimony would not be sworn and, they say, could create a confusing record.
Rove has insisted publicly that he never tried to influence Justice Department decisions and was not even aware of the Siegelman prosecution until it landed in the news.

Siegelman -- an unusually successful Democrat in a heavily Republican state -- was charged with accepting and concealing a contribution to his campaign to start a state education lottery, in exchange for appointing a hospital executive to a regulatory board.
He was sentenced last year to more than seven years in prison but was released in March when a federal appeals court ruled Siegelman had raised "substantial questions of fact and law" in his appeal.

Siegelman and others have alleged the prosecution was pushed by GOP operatives -- including Rove, a longtime Texas strategist who was heavily involved in Alabama politics before working at the White House. A former Republican campaign volunteer from Alabama told congressional attorneys last year that she overheard conversations suggesting that Rove pressed Justice officials in Washington to prosecute Siegelman.

The career prosecutors who handled Siegelman's case have insisted that Rove had nothing to do with it, emphasizing that the former governor was convicted by a jury.
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So what, Dem political circus, as usual.

Part of the reason Congress Approval is in single digits for the first time in history.

Easier to Hate on Bush for political headlines than to actually do the Peoples' work.

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Congress can't take, "NO!" for an answer. "No" means no.

As in, "No Votes For Democrats!" Fire 'em all!
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Why has exports gone UP to IRAN since a REPUBLICAN has been in office??? I thought we don't do business with terrorists??? Something like $150million more than in 2001????

BECAUSE GWB AND THE CURRENT REPUBLICAN CREW ARE CROOKS AND LIARS THAT'S WHY.
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The only thing Congress is guilty of is NOT IMPEACHING THIS WAR CRIMINAL.
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Why has exports gone UP to IRAN since a REPUBLICAN has been in office??? I thought we don't do business with terrorists??? Something like $150million more than in 2001????

BECAUSE GWB AND THE CURRENT REPUBLICAN CREW ARE CROOKS AND LIARS THAT'S WHY.

Can't argure that,but which ones were not crooks?

All of they are "in it" for themselves.I will have to say,the Bush administration was the worst.Not for their actions,but lack of whitewashing.

Everything GWB has done has been totally blatent.They make no attempts to enhance the appearance of anything.

Dictators and commies do stuff like that,it should not be so apparent or prevelant in a democratic society.

Clinton was a little smarter,when he felt the heat coming on,he ran to Kosovo to save those dam Albanians. The Serbs have been fighting with them for decades,but all the sudden,we need to intervene in their business?WTF?

It was a good attempt for Clinton to draw attention from the circus going on in Washington.The majority of people did not see this as a diversion,but people who know the region know better.

A great example of how you can throw up a smoke screen and not get covered in ash.
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HE's the worst cause he MAKES IT A POINT to NOT do business with TERRORISTS and then does it TO BENEFIT THE COMPANIES IN HIS POCKET even if it's crumbling the US as a whole.

HE'S THREATENING WORLD WAR AND SELLING THEM GOODS AT THE SAME TIME!!!

The amount of money in exports to CUBA is/will be HUGE and they are RIGHT NEXT STORE AND READY TO BUY but Bush doesn't do business with CUBA cause someone OTHER than himself or the 6 people that he is buddies with might make some money.

He's a piece of **** and will continue to be till the very last minute of him in office.

What a scumbag.
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HE's the worst cause he MAKES IT A POINT to NOT do business with TERRORISTS and then does it TO BENEFIT THE COMPANIES IN HIS POCKET even if it's crumbling the US as a whole.

HE'S THREATENING WORLD WAR AND SELLING THEM GOODS AT THE SAME TIME!!!

The amount of money in exports to CUBA is/will be HUGE and they are RIGHT NEXT STORE AND READY TO BUY but Bush doesn't do business with CUBA cause someone OTHER than himself or the 6 people that he is buddies with might make some money.

He's a piece of **** and will continue to be till the very last minute of him in office.

What a scumbag.
So is every president before him and every president that will follow him.This is how our society is,no need to get your panties in a buch over it.

Mccain will have his agendas,as will Obama.The question remains is, who will do a better job of covering it up?
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