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Old 10-29-2005, 01:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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Wrong Wrong Wrong Libby is not charged with outing a CIA agent you dumba#$ he is charged with obstruction of justice for how he said he heard about it. And yes I do give to church as well as charity but only money I can follow since so many of them waste it or just give themselves raises. All the years you have had on this earth and you still have not figured out how the world works. And no I haven't helped a mother stop from getting an abortion of course to my knowledge I also don't know any that have. But yes there proabley are some but they have just hide it well.


Don't forget 9-11 was not the 1st attack on the world trade center maybe if Clinton had got Bin Laden then there would not have been a second.
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Old 10-29-2005, 02:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/04/katrina/main815171.shtml


here is a link caribbean tan shows how much Kuwait gave us after Katrina.
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Old 10-29-2005, 02:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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And maybe if we hadn't helped ben ladden back in the 80's or supplied saddam back in the 80s Clinton wouldn't be blamed ,do you forget, Bush was the one not paying attentioned in the months leading up to 9-11, not clinton .I can see it now, fifty years from now what ever the problem....."well if Clinton the lying president had just................"whatever.


DumbA$$????????????????

and who doesn't see the big picture here ? What the **** was LIbby lying about ?Another blowjob????

Again, the question is.... Have you helped a woman who has kept a child?? I'l make it easy on you . A single girl under 20 yrs. of age , nice girl like your wife was, only she didn't have a nice guy like you that stuck around, look for one,she won't be married ,then help her, then maybe....just maybe I will listen to your arguments. And don't tell me there aren't any poor single women where you are, **** man, try the food section at walmart,should find one there.
You also didn't reply to how many people ,out side of your wife's family do you think would have helped her (maybe yours), with out looking down on her with scorn ,cause she didn't wait to open her legs til after she was married. And if you say lots in her church ....you would be lying.
Also , do you give like our "born again "leader? he gives under 2 percent( think the bible asks for 10)
finally what does the first attack have to do with ben ladden? He bombed over seas embassies & the uss cole, and if you remember when he,Clinton, sent crusie misslles at benladdens camps,he was chastied by the press as being a coward. He,clinton also warned BUsh about benladden, and bush ignored him & so did Rice, our national security advicer.
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Old 10-30-2005, 09:03 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Oh by golly , I didn't make the connection!!!!!! wow ! You mean, ...no ...Say it isn't so......The Iraqies did this???? I thought for sure biladen was a Saudie. I mean his family was from Saudi Arabia so I just figured .he was from there too .****!
Help me out here Kay are you saying the people who attack us were from Iraq. Cause usually thats what you do ,you attack the country that the bad guys are from. can you enlighten me on why you posted that .Tell you what I'l go google this and if you would, please bring other facts into this.

I did a search on Iraqi support for bin Laden's network and
739,000 links came up. here are a few. If you need more let me know.


http://limitedgovernment.org/publications/pubs/FandO/FOMay02.pdf#search='Iraqi%20support%20fo r%20bin%20Laden%27s%20network'

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1507859/posts

http://www.nydailynews.com/10-18-2004/news/wn_report/story/243421p-208691c.html


http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2001/12/03/1acover.htm

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/05/08/national1016EDT0560.DTL


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Old 10-31-2005, 10:07 AM   #25 (permalink)
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im out this is way over my head! i think you guys should take it down a few notches also. your fighting over something none of use are going to change or end!
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Caribbean you are correct neither one of us will end it. But no name calling just a few facts.

1. Clinton was charged with the same charges as Libby is charged and lying is lying they are both wrong.

2. Bush had been in office for 8 months when 9-11 happened, the planning for these attacks took years that would of had been under Clinton's adminstration.

3. Sometimes people have to make sacrifices for the good of future generations, if other countries had not helped us we would still be under control of a King.

4. If anyone thought Bin Laden was an immediate threat and Bush was ignoring it then they should of called an emergency hearing of Congress, not one person did that. No one held a press confrence nothing nobody did anything.

Electric I just have a hard time understanding your logic please open my eyes u seem to be ok with abortion (in other words killing a baby), but against a soldier dying in the name of freedom. I think both are horrible but I can atleast understand the losing of a soldier. And I did serve my country 1997-2003. Did you???
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:15 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Medivac pilot 1969 . and you ?
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:35 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I for one, applaud all of the participants on this thread. Heated, passionate, intelligent debate; rather than the meaningless bickering I see on so many other sites. Keep the facts and postions coming I say. Great dialog! -Belvie
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:24 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Medivac pilot 1969 (4yrs active plus 22 in the guard).WANT TO SWAP MEDALS? When did you find out you wanted control over a woman? I fought in one stupid war , don't think we should be in this stupid war brought to us by liars. BTW ONE FINAL FACT NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!!!!!!!!!!!,THAT WAS THE REASON WE WENT TO WAR WITH IRAQ.........DUH! ANOTHER FACT, THE PRES. WAS A CHICKEN SH%T DURING VIET NAM.

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“ IRAQ WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION”

http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.htm#06

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB80/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/02/uk_dossier_on_iraq/pdf/iraqdossier.pdf#search='IRAQ%20WEAPONS%2 0OF%20MASS%20DESTRUCTION'

http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.htm



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Couldn't leave your thread hanging bro. I for one appreciate your passion and anguish over this entire mess. The sad fact is (at least in my case), many of us don;t even know there is a war going on somewhere that we are involved with. I forget, caught up in my life, until something like this hits the news or you bring it up here. Whatever your opinion on our presence in Iraq, whatever your opinion of the current administration and their justifications for our presence in Iraq; the fact is, we must keep this in the forefront of every American's mind inorder to bring about the resolution of the issues and hastty return of our fighting men and women in that theater. It has become very obvious to me, that the powers that be learned nothing from our great sacrifice and loss in Vietnam, and feel content to watch happen again in the deserts of the middle east. I care. I'm upset. But I forget. But, this shouldn't be about politics et al; it should be about doing the right thing, every time we get the chance. And I for one say that we have done the "right thing" in Iraq, and now it's up to them. Good luck my friend. -Belvie


You hit it right on the head with this one. Well said.
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