Kerry and the secret service - tanTALK

phlash58 · 10-15-2004, 03:25 PM

You will pay upkeep/Secret Service for 5 Kerry mansions.
>
>It is good to be John F. Kerry....... The F stands for Forbes in case you
>ever wondered. Recognize that name?
>
>He is one of the richest Senators in Government. When someone is elected
>president, it means the Secret Service has to protect the President and his
>family as well as his property.
>
>The Kerry's have five US properties not counting the several foreign
>properties they own too. The cost to run these homes are more than what
>the average American could afford, even if the rent was free, and all you had
>to pay the water, gas & electric. Including ground keepers, maintenance, pool,
>and house keepers. To be President would require the taxpayers to pay for
>all that now if elected. Including a complete staffed Secret Service
>security 24 hours a day. In addition to that we will have to pay for each
>of their homes for security improvements even if they never go to them all
>there is that just in case. Who do you think will pay for all this? We
>Pay!
>
>This takes all the expense off Kerry and puts it on us. And that explains the reason the guy wants to be president!
>
>Nevertheless, factor another major cost to Americans that Kerry does not
>want you to know about.
>
>Becoming president would automatically include taking care of all their
>properties with Secret Service Agents that includes 5 agents per 6 hour
>shift 4 times a day 365 days of the year for the rest of their lives so
>long as they own those properties. It comes with being President once you are
>elected. It requires us the taxpayers, to pay for this as well as his
>annual salary as well as his retirements including the cost of living adjustments
>to boot. These salaries and protect all their real estate property with
>Secret Service Agents and pay the bills for the rest of his life.
>
>In addition, feed the Secret Service Agents and rotate new ones every 6
>hours for the rest of his life.
>
>Do the math. Five properties need to be protected. This requires five
>Secret Service Agents per shift, daily every six hours, per property! That is 20
>Secret Service Agents per day per property everyday including Holidays.
>Wow, what does that cost?
>
>Lets say an average of 20 agents per property, each earning a about $60K
>per agent to survey the perimeters and protect. Now times that by five
>properties so far. That is if the Kerry's do not buy any more properties
>afterwards. This also includes the Agents vehicles and repairs, gas, meals,
>days off, paid vacation, and medical plan visits etc per agent.
>
>The cost we will pay for security for the Kerry's could amount to
>$10,000,000 per year (that's 10 million per year for how many years 10, 20 or 30= 100 million or
>perhaps 300 million.
>
>Maybe this is why John Kerry is running for president--he hasn't given any
>other good reason.
>
>And all of this for the Kerry's who are worth billions--and we are the
>suckers who they will expect to pay for their "security".
>
>Who pays? YOU pay, the whole time they are alive after becoming President!
>Is this the best use of our tax money electing Kerry to take care of all
>their properties both foreign and domestic? On the other hand, shouldn't he
>pay for his own? Yet, the Presidential salary could not afford it.
>
>The more I think about paying for Kerry's properties everyday, just makes me
>happy keeping President Bush all the more merrier. Without raising taxes to
>boot.
>
>How on earth would Kerry pay for everyone to have Healthcare, increase our
>military, and have us pay to protect his investments, all without raising
>our taxes? Tax and spend Kerry is his party motto.
>
>Which really has to make you wonder why anyone with his wealth, would take
>a salary of that of a U.S. Senator, never mind want to be President? Do you
>believe him now why he needs to be the Prez? To serve the people? On the
>other hand, the people serve Him and his wife!
>
>Please pass the Mustard and do America a favor and pass this to your
>friends, lets keep Bush a resident in the White House, and not have to
>protect another Kerry house.

REMEMBER- THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT MONEY CAN'T BUY. FOR EVERYTHING ELSE THERE'S TERESA.

KERRY: SPENDING MONEY LEFT AND LEFT.

engfant · 10-15-2004, 03:40 PM

Who would you rather have in office. Someone who makes money off of oil, and war

OR

A guy who makes money from a family business crushing tomatoes?

It's OK for the UNDEReducated to not understand anything beyond Fox News. That's why those people are there. TO cater to the people who find that sound clips are the most reliable form of decision makeing.

phlash58 · 10-15-2004, 03:54 PM

Lets talk about outsourcing,Ms.Kerry outsources over 25,000 jobs to keep her company alive. And Kerry voted for the war so shut up already. That is his pathetic flip=flop that Americans just can't understand. By the way, Bush is ahead in 4 polls as of today.

engfant · 10-15-2004, 04:06 PM

Oh my GOD. Once again not GETTING IT.

EVERYONE VOTED FOR A WAR AGAINST A COUNTRY WITH WMD.

If the INFORMATION CHANGES, then should the direction of the war.

If you mistakenly take 93south instead of 93north, are you gunna keep going in the wrong direction?

electricparadise · 10-15-2004, 04:22 PM

How come republicans can't do an internet seaRch to see if what they put in here is TRUE!!!!!! Go to www.snopes.com .It is an urban legend dumbnuts.(I think this is why he's ahead supposedly,.....you idiots believe any crap thats tossed your way!!!) Next time the news releases another 5 to 10 names of our soldiers thank the president for keeping our gravediggers in work!He is an UNCOMPASSIONATE NON RELIGIOUS ,NATIOAL GUARD SLACKER, WHO SHOULD BE IMPEACHED! & I DIDN'T SAY THAT ,JOHN DEAN ,A REPUBLICAN DID!

electricparadise · 10-15-2004, 04:42 PM

Actually he just said the impeachment thingie, I claim the rest & I stand by them. NO WMD/HAVEN'T CAUGHT/ KILLED BINLADDEN/PUT THIS NATION SO FAR IN DEBT MY GRANDKIDS WILL BE PAYING ON HIS MISTAKES & YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT? Engfant is right, .your'e idiots.

_________________
"IF YOUR'E PAYIN TAXES ,YOUR'E MAKIN MONEY.

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Neon Beach · 10-16-2004, 07:40 AM

Well, at least phlash58 gets it! What the heck is wrong with the rest of you? So desparate for "change" you'd vote for any schmuck other than Bush?

_________________

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phlash58 · 10-16-2004, 08:34 AM

Thanks Neon...glad to see that there still are reasonable people out there. Anyone who dosn't believe that their were and still are wmds in Iraq is just plain ignorant. Even Clinton knew that..but i guess you just forgot that? Clinton knew it and still knows that Iraq was and is a breeding ground for terrorist. You can twist it any way you want and the fact is still clear that Kerry would have done the same thing if he were in his shoes. Remember..he voted for it...can't take that fact away.

electricparadise · 10-18-2004, 07:02 PM

Yes I would. As far as PhLash58 goes all he did was try to pass on an urban legend. This DICKHEAD(SAME SAME AS SCHMUCK FOR ALL YOU NON YIDDISH FOLKS)Doesn't know how to lead /doesn't know how to govern/doesn't know how to come in out of the rain /certainly doesn't know how to support the troops going in harms way/doesn't know a thing about diplomacyNow for the other crappolla that is being slung. Now Iraq is a 'breeding ground for terrorists?" & Thats the main reason we are over there?

10-15-2004, 03:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
phlash58 Join Date: Feb 22 2004 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 0	You will pay upkeep/Secret Service for 5 Kerry mansions. > >It is good to be John F. Kerry....... The F stands for Forbes in case you >ever wondered. Recognize that name? > >He is one of the richest Senators in Government. When someone is elected >president, it means the Secret Service has to protect the President and his >family as well as his property. > >The Kerry's have five US properties not counting the several foreign >properties they own too. The cost to run these homes are more than what >the average American could afford, even if the rent was free, and all you had >to pay the water, gas & electric. Including ground keepers, maintenance, pool, >and house keepers. To be President would require the taxpayers to pay for >all that now if elected. Including a complete staffed Secret Service >security 24 hours a day. In addition to that we will have to pay for each >of their homes for security improvements even if they never go to them all >there is that just in case. Who do you think will pay for all this? We >Pay! > >This takes all the expense off Kerry and puts it on us. And that explains the reason the guy wants to be president! > >Nevertheless, factor another major cost to Americans that Kerry does not >want you to know about. > >Becoming president would automatically include taking care of all their >properties with Secret Service Agents that includes 5 agents per 6 hour >shift 4 times a day 365 days of the year for the rest of their lives so >long as they own those properties. It comes with being President once you are >elected. It requires us the taxpayers, to pay for this as well as his >annual salary as well as his retirements including the cost of living adjustments >to boot. These salaries and protect all their real estate property with >Secret Service Agents and pay the bills for the rest of his life. > >In addition, feed the Secret Service Agents and rotate new ones every 6 >hours for the rest of his life. > >Do the math. Five properties need to be protected. This requires five >Secret Service Agents per shift, daily every six hours, per property! That is 20 >Secret Service Agents per day per property everyday including Holidays. >Wow, what does that cost? > >Lets say an average of 20 agents per property, each earning a about $60K >per agent to survey the perimeters and protect. Now times that by five >properties so far. That is if the Kerry's do not buy any more properties >afterwards. This also includes the Agents vehicles and repairs, gas, meals, >days off, paid vacation, and medical plan visits etc per agent. > >The cost we will pay for security for the Kerry's could amount to >$10,000,000 per year (that's 10 million per year for how many years 10, 20 or 30= 100 million or >perhaps 300 million. > >Maybe this is why John Kerry is running for president--he hasn't given any >other good reason. > >And all of this for the Kerry's who are worth billions--and we are the >suckers who they will expect to pay for their "security". > >Who pays? YOU pay, the whole time they are alive after becoming President! >Is this the best use of our tax money electing Kerry to take care of all >their properties both foreign and domestic? On the other hand, shouldn't he >pay for his own? Yet, the Presidential salary could not afford it. > >The more I think about paying for Kerry's properties everyday, just makes me >happy keeping President Bush all the more merrier. Without raising taxes to >boot. > >How on earth would Kerry pay for everyone to have Healthcare, increase our >military, and have us pay to protect his investments, all without raising >our taxes? Tax and spend Kerry is his party motto. > >Which really has to make you wonder why anyone with his wealth, would take >a salary of that of a U.S. Senator, never mind want to be President? Do you >believe him now why he needs to be the Prez? To serve the people? On the >other hand, the people serve Him and his wife! > >Please pass the Mustard and do America a favor and pass this to your >friends, lets keep Bush a resident in the White House, and not have to >protect another Kerry house. REMEMBER- THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT MONEY CAN'T BUY. FOR EVERYTHING ELSE THERE'S TERESA. KERRY: SPENDING MONEY LEFT AND LEFT.

10-15-2004, 03:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
engfant Join Date: May 20 2003 Posts: 9,301 Rep Power: 29	Who would you rather have in office. Someone who makes money off of oil, and war OR A guy who makes money from a family business crushing tomatoes? It's OK for the UNDEReducated to not understand anything beyond Fox News. That's why those people are there. TO cater to the people who find that sound clips are the most reliable form of decision makeing.

10-15-2004, 03:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
phlash58 Join Date: Feb 22 2004 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 0	Lets talk about outsourcing,Ms.Kerry outsources over 25,000 jobs to keep her company alive. And Kerry voted for the war so shut up already. That is his pathetic flip=flop that Americans just can't understand. By the way, Bush is ahead in 4 polls as of today.

10-15-2004, 04:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
engfant Join Date: May 20 2003 Posts: 9,301 Rep Power: 29	Oh my GOD. Once again not GETTING IT. EVERYONE VOTED FOR A WAR AGAINST A COUNTRY WITH WMD. If the INFORMATION CHANGES, then should the direction of the war. If you mistakenly take 93south instead of 93north, are you gunna keep going in the wrong direction?

10-15-2004, 04:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
electricparadise Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Dec 4 2002 Posts: 180 Rep Power: 0	How come republicans can't do an internet seaRch to see if what they put in here is TRUE!!!!!! Go to www.snopes.com .It is an urban legend dumbnuts.(I think this is why he's ahead supposedly,.....you idiots believe any crap thats tossed your way!!!) Next time the news releases another 5 to 10 names of our soldiers thank the president for keeping our gravediggers in work!He is an UNCOMPASSIONATE NON RELIGIOUS ,NATIOAL GUARD SLACKER, WHO SHOULD BE IMPEACHED! & I DIDN'T SAY THAT ,JOHN DEAN ,A REPUBLICAN DID!

10-15-2004, 04:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
electricparadise Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Dec 4 2002 Posts: 180 Rep Power: 0	Actually he just said the impeachment thingie, I claim the rest & I stand by them. NO WMD/HAVEN'T CAUGHT/ KILLED BINLADDEN/PUT THIS NATION SO FAR IN DEBT MY GRANDKIDS WILL BE PAYING ON HIS MISTAKES & YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT? Engfant is right, .your'e idiots. _________________ "IF YOUR'E PAYIN TAXES ,YOUR'E MAKIN MONEY. [ This Message was edited by: electricparadise on 2004-10-15 16:43 ][ This Message was edited by: electricparadise on 2004-10-15 16:43 ]

10-16-2004, 07:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	Well, at least phlash58 gets it! What the heck is wrong with the rest of you? So desparate for "change" you'd vote for any schmuck other than Bush? _________________ I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.[ This Message was edited by: Neon Beach on 2004-10-16 07:40 ]

10-16-2004, 08:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
phlash58 Join Date: Feb 22 2004 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 0	Thanks Neon...glad to see that there still are reasonable people out there. Anyone who dosn't believe that their were and still are wmds in Iraq is just plain ignorant. Even Clinton knew that..but i guess you just forgot that? Clinton knew it and still knows that Iraq was and is a breeding ground for terrorist. You can twist it any way you want and the fact is still clear that Kerry would have done the same thing if he were in his shoes. Remember..he voted for it...can't take that fact away.

10-18-2004, 07:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
electricparadise Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Dec 4 2002 Posts: 180 Rep Power: 0	Yes I would. As far as PhLash58 goes all he did was try to pass on an urban legend. This DICKHEAD(SAME SAME AS SCHMUCK FOR ALL YOU NON YIDDISH FOLKS)Doesn't know how to lead /doesn't know how to govern/doesn't know how to come in out of the rain /certainly doesn't know how to support the troops going in harms way/doesn't know a thing about diplomacyNow for the other crappolla that is being slung. Now Iraq is a 'breeding ground for terrorists?" & Thats the main reason we are over there?

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