REASON #1 FOR VOTING FOR KERRY - tanTALK

electricparadise · 09-03-2004, 10:46 AM

Got this from www.bushgreenwatch.com :
Bush Team Reversing Wilderness Act's 40-Year Success

Forty years ago today, President Lyndon Johnson enacted one of the most forward-looking environmental laws in human history. By signing the 1964 Wilderness Act and creating the National Wilderness Preservation System, President Johnson endorsed a uniquely American philosophy: America's wild lands, untrammeled by industry or machinery -- yet open to the enjoyment of all citizens -- possess special values that merit permanent protection for their own sake.

The decision to preserve wild lands was without precedent anywhere in the world. It symbolized Americans' deep pride in our greatest national asset -- our public lands. The act also inspired an extended period of reflection among the nation's historians, who saw the good in a people who collectively could act beyond the immediate desires of the present and protect something for those who came after them:

"In wilderness I sense the miracle of life, and behind it our scientific accomplishments fade to trivia." Charles A. Lindbergh, LIFE magazine, 22 December 1967

Since the law's signing, over 105 million acres of citizen-owned lands have been protected as Wilderness Areas, from the towering summits of the Rocky Mountains, to the pristine forests of the Pacific Northwest, to the biologically rich swamps of Florida.

Another 200 million acres of federal public lands may be suitable for Wilderness designation -- lands with equally stunning vistas, biological diversity and a measure of the quiet and solitude that is rapidly disappearing as more private lands become developed.

Sadly, with the arrival of the Bush Administration, the nation's remaining wild lands are instead now targeted for development by the oil, gas, timber and mining industries.

By definition, Wilderness Areas are off-limits to industrial use, and so have a natural enemy in the extractive industries. When President Bush came to power in 2000, he stacked his cabinet and federal agencies with industry lobbyists who spent their careers fighting the protection of wild lands.

Interior Secretary Gale Norton cut her teeth learning legal tricks from her infamous predecessor and mentor, Reagan Interior Secretary James Watt -- a man who actually advocated selling off our National Parks.

Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a life-long oil and gas man, headed a methane company that is aggressively fighting wilderness designation in the Rockies. Mark Rey, Undersecretary of Agriculture for Environment and Natural Resources, made his living as a top lobbyist for the timber industry before gaining oversight of the National Forest system.

This team of industry handmaidens quickly went to work dismantling the system that allows for Wilderness preservation. The first major volley was an under-cover-of-night decision by Secretary Norton to settle a controversial lawsuit with then-Utah Governor Mike Leavitt (now chief of the Environmental Protection Agency).

The "Norton-no-more-wilderness-settlement," as it's called, established that the U.S. Bureau of Land Management may not legally protect wilderness-quality lands -- ever. Norton's goal is to open tens of millions of acres of roadless and wild public lands throughout the West to oil and gas drilling.

Similarly, this summer, Undersecretary Rey killed the Clinton-era "Roadless Area Conservation Rule," which had allowed the Forest Service to inventory and preserve wild forest lands while they await a decision from Congress over formal Wilderness designation.

The roadless rule was the result of thousands of hours of public hearings. It generated hundreds of thousands of comments in favor of its enactment -- the most popular environmental decision of the last decade. Rey's reversal opened millions of acres of the public's forests to timber cutting, mining, and oil and gas drilling. Indeed, just last week, the Forest Service issued oil and gas leases in an inventoried roadless area south of Jackson Hole, Wyoming -- Vice President Cheney's home away from home.

While the wilderness characteristics President Bush aims to sacrifice are worthy of preservation on their own merits, there is more at stake. Many cities in the West increasingly rely on the clean water that flows from Wilderness Areas; some of the cleanest water in the nation originates there.

Similarly, outdoor recreation, hunting, fishing and wildlife viewing are multi-billion dollar industries that depend primarily on protected public lands. These industries have spoken out against Bush's policies, but their pleas have fallen on deaf ears.

Unless the President can be convinced to reverse course, these lands -- and the legal basis of the American land ethic -- may be lost forever.

Neon Beach · 09-03-2004, 10:52 AM

engfant · 09-03-2004, 11:11 AM

really enjoying the pictures. Did you see the Family Guy last night when Peter becomes his own country? That
s the best. I'm moving to Johio.

(giving the screen a thumbs up back at him)

Neon Beach · 09-03-2004, 11:14 AM

Holy Crap! I missed it!

electricparadise · 09-03-2004, 11:44 AM

What are y'al talkin about ?

sizzlestan · 09-03-2004, 11:53 AM

We are talking about something else because no one, you included, wants to talk about the BUMP Bush got this week in the polls. Looks like the stallion is pulling away from the pony down the back stretch. People see Kerry for what he is. The flip flops carried by many at the RNC says it all. Kerry, get a backbone and come back in 4 years for another beat down.

Wait, this just in - Bush wins by 6 furlongs.

You heard it here.

ALOHATANCA · 09-03-2004, 04:19 PM

"reason #1 for voting for Kerry" well I can't think of any reason to do so....So the answer is ZERO reasons!!

engfant · 09-03-2004, 04:27 PM

Yeah, watching that fool quiver and GRIND HIS TEETH EVERY MINUTE was a real deal sealer.

Anyone else think those conventions are kinda creepy (both of them)? Talk about brain washed fools. Ever been to a multi level marketing (pyramid) scam? Same kinda stuff.

Please see LET'S HAVE A VOTE for REAL reasoning for GETTING BUSH OUT.

A vote for Bush is showing your ignorance in reality.

tanfixr · 09-03-2004, 04:40 PM

Hey engfant, if you're going to level insults about intelligence why don't you at least use intelligent grammar. It should be, "A vote for Bush is showing your ignorance of reality."

engfant definition for "reality"; The world as seen by Michael Moore.

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[ This Message was edited by: tanfixr on 2004-09-03 16:41 ]

ALOHATANCA · 09-03-2004, 04:44 PM

BAD DONKEY, EAT SOME HAY AND GO TO YOUR STALL.....no I wasn't yellin.

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09-03-2004, 10:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
electricparadise Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Dec 4 2002 Posts: 180 Rep Power: 0	Got this from www.bushgreenwatch.com : Bush Team Reversing Wilderness Act's 40-Year Success Forty years ago today, President Lyndon Johnson enacted one of the most forward-looking environmental laws in human history. By signing the 1964 Wilderness Act and creating the National Wilderness Preservation System, President Johnson endorsed a uniquely American philosophy: America's wild lands, untrammeled by industry or machinery -- yet open to the enjoyment of all citizens -- possess special values that merit permanent protection for their own sake. The decision to preserve wild lands was without precedent anywhere in the world. It symbolized Americans' deep pride in our greatest national asset -- our public lands. The act also inspired an extended period of reflection among the nation's historians, who saw the good in a people who collectively could act beyond the immediate desires of the present and protect something for those who came after them: "In wilderness I sense the miracle of life, and behind it our scientific accomplishments fade to trivia." Charles A. Lindbergh, LIFE magazine, 22 December 1967 Since the law's signing, over 105 million acres of citizen-owned lands have been protected as Wilderness Areas, from the towering summits of the Rocky Mountains, to the pristine forests of the Pacific Northwest, to the biologically rich swamps of Florida. Another 200 million acres of federal public lands may be suitable for Wilderness designation -- lands with equally stunning vistas, biological diversity and a measure of the quiet and solitude that is rapidly disappearing as more private lands become developed. Sadly, with the arrival of the Bush Administration, the nation's remaining wild lands are instead now targeted for development by the oil, gas, timber and mining industries. By definition, Wilderness Areas are off-limits to industrial use, and so have a natural enemy in the extractive industries. When President Bush came to power in 2000, he stacked his cabinet and federal agencies with industry lobbyists who spent their careers fighting the protection of wild lands. Interior Secretary Gale Norton cut her teeth learning legal tricks from her infamous predecessor and mentor, Reagan Interior Secretary James Watt -- a man who actually advocated selling off our National Parks. Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a life-long oil and gas man, headed a methane company that is aggressively fighting wilderness designation in the Rockies. Mark Rey, Undersecretary of Agriculture for Environment and Natural Resources, made his living as a top lobbyist for the timber industry before gaining oversight of the National Forest system. This team of industry handmaidens quickly went to work dismantling the system that allows for Wilderness preservation. The first major volley was an under-cover-of-night decision by Secretary Norton to settle a controversial lawsuit with then-Utah Governor Mike Leavitt (now chief of the Environmental Protection Agency). The "Norton-no-more-wilderness-settlement," as it's called, established that the U.S. Bureau of Land Management may not legally protect wilderness-quality lands -- ever. Norton's goal is to open tens of millions of acres of roadless and wild public lands throughout the West to oil and gas drilling. Similarly, this summer, Undersecretary Rey killed the Clinton-era "Roadless Area Conservation Rule," which had allowed the Forest Service to inventory and preserve wild forest lands while they await a decision from Congress over formal Wilderness designation. The roadless rule was the result of thousands of hours of public hearings. It generated hundreds of thousands of comments in favor of its enactment -- the most popular environmental decision of the last decade. Rey's reversal opened millions of acres of the public's forests to timber cutting, mining, and oil and gas drilling. Indeed, just last week, the Forest Service issued oil and gas leases in an inventoried roadless area south of Jackson Hole, Wyoming -- Vice President Cheney's home away from home. While the wilderness characteristics President Bush aims to sacrifice are worthy of preservation on their own merits, there is more at stake. Many cities in the West increasingly rely on the clean water that flows from Wilderness Areas; some of the cleanest water in the nation originates there. Similarly, outdoor recreation, hunting, fishing and wildlife viewing are multi-billion dollar industries that depend primarily on protected public lands. These industries have spoken out against Bush's policies, but their pleas have fallen on deaf ears. Unless the President can be convinced to reverse course, these lands -- and the legal basis of the American land ethic -- may be lost forever.

09-03-2004, 10:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107

09-03-2004, 11:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
engfant Join Date: May 20 2003 Posts: 9,301 Rep Power: 29	really enjoying the pictures. Did you see the Family Guy last night when Peter becomes his own country? That s the best. I'm moving to Johio. (giving the screen a thumbs up back at him)

09-03-2004, 11:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
Neon Beach Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 61 Posts: 38,594 Rep Power: 107	Holy Crap! I missed it!

09-03-2004, 11:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
electricparadise Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Dec 4 2002 Posts: 180 Rep Power: 0	What are y'al talkin about ?

09-03-2004, 11:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
sizzlestan Join Date: Jul 25 2004 Posts: 446 Rep Power: 20	We are talking about something else because no one, you included, wants to talk about the BUMP Bush got this week in the polls. Looks like the stallion is pulling away from the pony down the back stretch. People see Kerry for what he is. The flip flops carried by many at the RNC says it all. Kerry, get a backbone and come back in 4 years for another beat down. Wait, this just in - Bush wins by 6 furlongs. You heard it here.

09-03-2004, 04:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
ALOHATANCA Tan Talk Industry Pro member Join Date: Nov 14 2003 Location: CALIFORNIA Age: 65 Posts: 3,455 Rep Power: 24	"reason #1 for voting for Kerry" well I can't think of any reason to do so....So the answer is ZERO reasons!!

09-03-2004, 04:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
engfant Join Date: May 20 2003 Posts: 9,301 Rep Power: 29	Yeah, watching that fool quiver and GRIND HIS TEETH EVERY MINUTE was a real deal sealer. Anyone else think those conventions are kinda creepy (both of them)? Talk about brain washed fools. Ever been to a multi level marketing (pyramid) scam? Same kinda stuff. Please see LET'S HAVE A VOTE for REAL reasoning for GETTING BUSH OUT. A vote for Bush is showing your ignorance in reality.

09-03-2004, 04:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
tanfixr Join Date: Aug 12 2002 Location: Michigan Age: 60 Posts: 338 Rep Power: 22	Hey engfant, if you're going to level insults about intelligence why don't you at least use intelligent grammar. It should be, "A vote for Bush is showing your ignorance of reality." engfant definition for "reality"; The world as seen by Michael Moore. _________________ [ This Message was edited by: tanfixr on 2004-09-03 16:41 ]

09-03-2004, 04:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
ALOHATANCA Tan Talk Industry Pro member Join Date: Nov 14 2003 Location: CALIFORNIA Age: 65 Posts: 3,455 Rep Power: 24	BAD DONKEY, EAT SOME HAY AND GO TO YOUR STALL.....no I wasn't yellin.

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