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Old 01-04-2008, 12:13 AM   #131 (permalink)
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Where does it say she had to tan?? This is what angelcat asked her to sign:

03:57 PM

Ok. Update:

I told her that she would have to agree to some "terms and conditions" to keep her job. She signed an agreement.

Guidelines such as:

-she is to inform pregnant women to ALWAYS check with their doctor before tanning but she must inform them that the UV rays will not reach the baby

- she is not allowed to mention her husbands opinions on pregnant tanning

-If someone asks her why she's not tanning, for her to give a reasonable excuse...maybe she's uncomfortable, makes her nauseated, etc."

This in an overview of what was "outlined" but not the actual document that bears the victims signature.

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Old 01-04-2008, 12:14 AM   #132 (permalink)
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Re: Ok...now I am pi**ed

angelcat was the first one to say in her very first post that she was sorry she just needed to vent.... many of you are taking her venting out loud here to us and beating her up for it. in the end angelcat thought things through and came to what seems to be a fair agreement with her employee. i wouldn't be surprised if her employee enjoys being at work more then being at home with a controlling husband.
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Old 01-04-2008, 12:19 AM   #133 (permalink)
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This in an overview of what was "outlined" but not the actual document that bears the victims signature.
I don't get it brian... are you saying she's forcing her employee to tan? the one line right there says about someone asking her why she's not tanning...

i interpret that as angelcat did NOT make her tan.
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Old 01-04-2008, 12:28 AM   #134 (permalink)
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angelcat was the first one to say in her very first post that she was sorry she just needed to vent.... many of you are taking her venting out loud here to us and beating her up for it.
That's because the true colors shined through.

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Ok. Update:

I told her that she would have to agree to some "terms and conditions" to keep her job. She signed an agreement.
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Old 01-04-2008, 12:32 AM   #135 (permalink)
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I'm not going to split hairs here, I had my "vent" too and now it's time to return to our scheduled programming.
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Old 01-04-2008, 12:44 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:04 AM   #137 (permalink)
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angelcat was the first one to say in her very first post that she was sorry she just needed to vent.... many of you are taking her venting out loud here to us and beating her up for it. in the end angelcat thought things through and came to what seems to be a fair agreement with her employee. i wouldn't be surprised if her employee enjoys being at work more then being at home with a controlling husband.

Ok - I won't touch the part about the employee preferring work over her husband!

Unless all employees are required to sign the same "agreement", this may be considered discrimination under the Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1979.

http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/fs-preg.html


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"An employer may not single out pregnancy related conditions for special procedures to determine an employee's ability to work. However, an employer may use any procedure used to screen other employees' ability to work. For example, if an employer requires its employees to submit a doctor's statement concerning their inability to work before granting leave or paying sick benefits, the employer may require employees affected by pregnancy related conditions to submit such statements.


If an employee is temporarily unable to perform her job due to pregnancy, the employer must treat her the same as any other temporarily disabled employee; for example, by providing modified tasks, alternative assignments, disability leave or leave without pay.
Pregnant employees must be permitted to work as long as they are able to perform their jobs.
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Angelcat -- have ALL your employees sign the SAME agreement and follow the SAME procedures with clients. They should be anyway. Just because someone is NOT pregnant, it does not mean they wouldn't state these same views you are banning her from saying as a condition of her job.


In general, even if you think a law will NOT apply to you, err on the side of caution. Nobody wants to be dragged through a lawsuit. Even if it is "without merit", it can take a lot of time and money to get to that conclusion.
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:11 AM   #138 (permalink)
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Re: Ok...now I am pi**ed

The employee that signed that has a very good chance to own a tanning salon in Texas if she wants it.
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:35 AM   #139 (permalink)
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Re: Ok...now I am pi**ed

angelcat I would go with what my attorney suggests, you said you would be consulting with one in an earlier post and i was thinking this is the direction he/she sent you. there are no attorneys posting here that i know of.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:12 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Re: Ok...now I am pi**ed

This whole situation has been over and done with. She's happy, I'm happy, we haven't spoken about it since.

Brian, the trailer trash comment was WAY out of line. I never called her husband & ranted to him. I called HER cell phone & HE answered the phone & proceeded to get loud with me.

I find it absolutely insane that a bunch of salon owners don't see a problem with an employee refusing to tan. I even gave her the option of tanning or unlimited spray tanning. She refused to do either. I feel like I was more than fair with her & it all worked out in the end.
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