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West Side Tanner · 10-20-2005, 11:47 AM

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On 2005-10-19 00:17:00, mr belvedere wrote:
I'm sure it is a fine, upstanding organization with nothing but your best interests, and the best interests of the industry at heart.

angelcat04 · 10-20-2005, 11:53 AM

If you decided to keep her...which I don't think I would. You could limit her lotion purchases to 1 a month. I would also find a new disty.

West Side Tanner · 10-20-2005, 11:54 AM

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On 2005-10-19 00:41:00, exectans110 wrote:
Let me get this straight.
1) Your distributor will sell to your employee for a better price than he'll sell to you.
2) Your employee will sell to your customers instead of protecting your business -- the one that provides her a job.
3) You are trying to 'control' this?

I'm thinking it's time for a new distributor and a new employee. Maybe the two of them should hook up. They're on the same level as far as ethics go.
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I agree!

Tanzenite · 10-20-2005, 11:54 AM

If your employee is getting a better discount, start buying from her!

Tanzenite · 10-20-2005, 11:56 AM

On another note, if your employee is selling the lotions to her friends that tan in your salon, she is taking money from your business, while she is still employed. Do you have anything in your employee manual, like a non-compete agreement?

West Side Tanner · 10-20-2005, 11:58 AM

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On 2005-10-20 06:35:00, sunsally wrote:
Once the girl bought from you to resale to her friend after your talk -- she should be fired. She is "stealing" from you, whether she sees it that way or not. If her friends can not afford to pay to tan, will she tan them for free too?

I would certainly contact the "mgt" at your disty and let them know what has occurred.

I would also stop using that disty regardless. It should be VERY clear to ANY rep of a disty that sales are to salon owners PERIOD. End of discussion.

I would then contact the manufacturers of the lotions that your employee purchased. Let them know which disty was doing this. They will (should) take their OWN actions. Most have strict standards about how their product can be sold - and this violates those.

I'll Agree!

mattie · 10-27-2005, 01:02 AM

Yes, Tanzenite this is illegal! You can not utilize the assets of your employer to earn money for yourself on the side! Employee's: you gotta love em!

BunnsHuny · 10-27-2005, 04:00 PM

I agree with mikeytan on this one. Talking to the employee is a good start, perhaps she's dense enough to not realize this is a no-no. Make it perfectly clear for her...if you still have problems, let her go. In this case, you have spoken with her and she sounds like she might not be catching your drift so it might be best to give her her walking papers. As far as the disty goes, I'd definitely speak with the manager/head honcho and also demand a new rep.

Quote:I would also stop using that disty regardless. It should be VERY clear to ANY rep of a disty that sales are to salon owners PERIOD. End of discussion.

While I'm not arguing with your rep's bad choice to sell to an employee, I'm sure managers are often included in the list of people who can place orders (obviously with the owner's permission,) but who's to say your employee didn't say "Oh sure, it's fine." Were they dating prior to her ordering? There's a lot to take into consideration, but bottom line has to be what's best for your business.

sbt501 · 10-27-2005, 08:46 PM

Cut her hours to half a shift a week, too big of a pain to fire her. Last employee I fired recieved unemployment for 8 months.She admitted the reason she was terminated had been discussed with her several times but the state determined she was unqualified for the job, WTF?She had been one of my best sales associates for the last 2 years.Easier to make them quit.

ground zero · 10-27-2005, 10:28 PM

I had a long heart to heart with my rep and explained the error of his ways. I also told him that NO orders go through unless I personally call them in. I also told him that I caught wind of him selling to my employee again (dating or not) that I would be dealing with a new disty and letting the disty owner know why I was no longer working with them. As for my employee, we also had a "come to hesus" meeting and explained to her the error of her ways, and if I heard about it again she was done.
Thanks for all of your advice.

10-20-2005, 11:47 AM	#21 (permalink)
West Side Tanner Join Date: Dec 27 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 2,548 Rep Power: 5	Quote: On 2005-10-19 00:17:00, mr belvedere wrote: I'm sure it is a fine, upstanding organization with nothing but your best interests, and the best interests of the industry at heart.

10-20-2005, 11:53 AM	#22 (permalink)
angelcat04 I love Derf!! Join Date: Jul 26 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 1,914 Rep Power: 6	If you decided to keep her...which I don't think I would. You could limit her lotion purchases to 1 a month. I would also find a new disty.

10-20-2005, 11:54 AM	#23 (permalink)
West Side Tanner Join Date: Dec 27 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 2,548 Rep Power: 5	Quote: On 2005-10-19 00:41:00, exectans110 wrote: Let me get this straight. 1) Your distributor will sell to your employee for a better price than he'll sell to you. 2) Your employee will sell to your customers instead of protecting your business -- the one that provides her a job. 3) You are trying to 'control' this? I'm thinking it's time for a new distributor and a new employee. Maybe the two of them should hook up. They're on the same level as far as ethics go. . I agree!

10-20-2005, 11:54 AM	#24 (permalink)
Tanzenite Don't you dare! Join Date: Jun 2 2005 Posts: 2,849 Rep Power: 15	If your employee is getting a better discount, start buying from her!

10-20-2005, 11:56 AM	#25 (permalink)
Tanzenite Don't you dare! Join Date: Jun 2 2005 Posts: 2,849 Rep Power: 15	On another note, if your employee is selling the lotions to her friends that tan in your salon, she is taking money from your business, while she is still employed. Do you have anything in your employee manual, like a non-compete agreement?

10-20-2005, 11:58 AM	#26 (permalink)
West Side Tanner Join Date: Dec 27 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 2,548 Rep Power: 5	Quote: On 2005-10-20 06:35:00, sunsally wrote: Once the girl bought from you to resale to her friend after your talk -- she should be fired. She is "stealing" from you, whether she sees it that way or not. If her friends can not afford to pay to tan, will she tan them for free too? I would certainly contact the "mgt" at your disty and let them know what has occurred. I would also stop using that disty regardless. It should be VERY clear to ANY rep of a disty that sales are to salon owners PERIOD. End of discussion. I would then contact the manufacturers of the lotions that your employee purchased. Let them know which disty was doing this. They will (should) take their OWN actions. Most have strict standards about how their product can be sold - and this violates those. I'll Agree!

10-27-2005, 01:02 AM	#27 (permalink)
mattie Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Jul 26 2004 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Yes, Tanzenite this is illegal! You can not utilize the assets of your employer to earn money for yourself on the side! Employee's: you gotta love em!

10-27-2005, 04:00 PM	#28 (permalink)
BunnsHuny I'm Banned Join Date: Oct 26 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	I agree with mikeytan on this one. Talking to the employee is a good start, perhaps she's dense enough to not realize this is a no-no. Make it perfectly clear for her...if you still have problems, let her go. In this case, you have spoken with her and she sounds like she might not be catching your drift so it might be best to give her her walking papers. As far as the disty goes, I'd definitely speak with the manager/head honcho and also demand a new rep. Quote:I would also stop using that disty regardless. It should be VERY clear to ANY rep of a disty that sales are to salon owners PERIOD. End of discussion. While I'm not arguing with your rep's bad choice to sell to an employee, I'm sure managers are often included in the list of people who can place orders (obviously with the owner's permission,) but who's to say your employee didn't say "Oh sure, it's fine." Were they dating prior to her ordering? There's a lot to take into consideration, but bottom line has to be what's best for your business.

10-27-2005, 08:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
sbt501 Join Date: Jan 15 2005 Posts: 41 Rep Power: 0	Cut her hours to half a shift a week, too big of a pain to fire her. Last employee I fired recieved unemployment for 8 months.She admitted the reason she was terminated had been discussed with her several times but the state determined she was unqualified for the job, WTF?She had been one of my best sales associates for the last 2 years.Easier to make them quit.

10-27-2005, 10:28 PM	#30 (permalink)
ground zero Join Date: Jun 19 2005 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	I had a long heart to heart with my rep and explained the error of his ways. I also told him that NO orders go through unless I personally call them in. I also told him that I caught wind of him selling to my employee again (dating or not) that I would be dealing with a new disty and letting the disty owner know why I was no longer working with them. As for my employee, we also had a "come to hesus" meeting and explained to her the error of her ways, and if I heard about it again she was done. Thanks for all of your advice.

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