Clock-In/Clock-Out - Page 2

SwedaGuy · 10-27-2004, 12:22 PM

We haven't started using the timeclock in our system, either, but I think we will...soon...I've started to get customers telling me that they called or stopped by at such-and-such a time, and no one was there...

Opal · 10-27-2004, 12:37 PM

Neon, why would an employee clock out and then continue to work longer? How would you know he/she actually did this?

JOLEE · 10-27-2004, 01:46 PM

I've just done the paper version...but wondered what everyone else did as well, I agree that when its busier, I can just imagine that they won't be clocking in when they should be and computer problems etc.

Neon Beach · 10-27-2004, 01:55 PM

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On 2004-10-27 11:37:00, Opal wrote:
Neon, why would an employee clock out and then continue to work longer? How would you know he/she actually did this?

In their hurry to get out, they may clock out while the last tanners are still tanning, that way everything is done and they can get out right on time. The reverse would be the same if they forget to clock out right at the end of the shift. It's useless for actual payroll purposes. For example, would you print out a copy of the timeclock report for a given payroll period and send it off to the accountant?

JOLEE · 10-27-2004, 02:26 PM

I agree with Neon, my employees would clock out, exit the software and turn off the computer a good 5 minutes or more before they actually lock the door to the place, so they actually could get out on time...I don't feel I could trust it fully either, not totally accurate.

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Neon Beach · 10-27-2004, 02:43 PM

Thank you, jolee.

JOLEE · 10-27-2004, 02:58 PM

anything for a fellow snowmobiler... lol

top250tansyou · 10-27-2004, 06:00 PM

Yes neon that is exactly what I do. I know how many hours are avaible for the day and the week I check this. Again it is just a adding thing - you keep working at it and you will get it. Employees do make mistakes but that is what I get paid to catch. I did have an error I did not catch a couple of weeks ago and a girl got 10 hours too many. I was gone for the weekend so i didnt catch it. The girl new her check was wrong and brought it to my attention. Here again this comes down to quality employees which most of you have a problem finding.

Neon Beach · 10-27-2004, 08:21 PM

10 hours? Good thing it wasn't 11, then you'd have to use someone elses toes.

Only jolee gets my point I guess. Salon management software timeclocks are just a mere tool, that can be manipulated, and shouldn't be used for actual payrol purposes. As I stated above, but you may have missed or misundertood, you wouldn't print a copy of the timesheet and send it to the payroll department as is.

top250tansyou · 10-29-2004, 01:11 AM

Yes that is what I do. I check the time sheets daily to see if they are right. Yes they can be altered and I know my employees know how to alter them. No one is going to take the chance of getting caught. **** I dont think they would do it regaurdless. Like I have said where do you find your people? You should not have to worry about getting screwes all the time.

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10-27-2004, 12:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
SwedaGuy Waiting Confirmation Join Date: Sep 3 2004 Posts: 777 Rep Power: 0	We haven't started using the timeclock in our system, either, but I think we will...soon...I've started to get customers telling me that they called or stopped by at such-and-such a time, and no one was there...

10-27-2004, 12:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
Opal Join Date: Sep 20 2004 Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Neon, why would an employee clock out and then continue to work longer? How would you know he/she actually did this?

10-27-2004, 01:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
JOLEE Join Date: Nov 25 2003 Posts: 858 Rep Power: 5	I've just done the paper version...but wondered what everyone else did as well, I agree that when its busier, I can just imagine that they won't be clocking in when they should be and computer problems etc.

10-27-2004, 01:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
Neon Beach I'm Banned Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 45 Posts: 52,065 Rep Power: 0	Quote: On 2004-10-27 11:37:00, Opal wrote: Neon, why would an employee clock out and then continue to work longer? How would you know he/she actually did this? In their hurry to get out, they may clock out while the last tanners are still tanning, that way everything is done and they can get out right on time. The reverse would be the same if they forget to clock out right at the end of the shift. It's useless for actual payroll purposes. For example, would you print out a copy of the timeclock report for a given payroll period and send it off to the accountant?

10-27-2004, 02:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
JOLEE Join Date: Nov 25 2003 Posts: 858 Rep Power: 5	I agree with Neon, my employees would clock out, exit the software and turn off the computer a good 5 minutes or more before they actually lock the door to the place, so they actually could get out on time...I don't feel I could trust it fully either, not totally accurate. _________________ [ This Message was edited by: JOLEE on 2004-10-27 13:28 ]

10-27-2004, 02:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
Neon Beach I'm Banned Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 45 Posts: 52,065 Rep Power: 0	Thank you, jolee.

10-27-2004, 02:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
JOLEE Join Date: Nov 25 2003 Posts: 858 Rep Power: 5	anything for a fellow snowmobiler... lol

10-27-2004, 06:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
top250tansyou I love Derf!! Join Date: Jan 1 2004 Location: little rock Posts: 2,237 Rep Power: 6	Yes neon that is exactly what I do. I know how many hours are avaible for the day and the week I check this. Again it is just a adding thing - you keep working at it and you will get it. Employees do make mistakes but that is what I get paid to catch. I did have an error I did not catch a couple of weeks ago and a girl got 10 hours too many. I was gone for the weekend so i didnt catch it. The girl new her check was wrong and brought it to my attention. Here again this comes down to quality employees which most of you have a problem finding.

10-27-2004, 08:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
Neon Beach I'm Banned Join Date: Nov 30 2000 Location: Ontario Age: 45 Posts: 52,065 Rep Power: 0	10 hours? Good thing it wasn't 11, then you'd have to use someone elses toes. Only jolee gets my point I guess. Salon management software timeclocks are just a mere tool, that can be manipulated, and shouldn't be used for actual payrol purposes. As I stated above, but you may have missed or misundertood, you wouldn't print a copy of the timesheet and send it to the payroll department as is.

10-29-2004, 01:11 AM	#20 (permalink)
top250tansyou I love Derf!! Join Date: Jan 1 2004 Location: little rock Posts: 2,237 Rep Power: 6	Yes that is what I do. I check the time sheets daily to see if they are right. Yes they can be altered and I know my employees know how to alter them. No one is going to take the chance of getting caught. **** I dont think they would do it regaurdless. Like I have said where do you find your people? You should not have to worry about getting screwes all the time.

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